Flashback: In 1995 Interview, Rudy Suggested That The National Rifle Association "Extremists"
Rudy Giuliani is set to address a National Rifle Association convention this Friday as part of his campaign for the GOP nomination -- but a rival campaign has now sent us a video of Giuliani in a 1995 interview with Charlie Rose in which he repeatedly lambasted the NRA, even suggesting that it's made up of "extremists."
Rudy's appearance before the NRA later this week will be a closely watched one, because as Mayor of New York City he took a variety of positions that are anathema to the NRA and "gun rights" supporters. For instance, Rudy frequently defended gun control laws and attacked the NRA's opposition to a Federal assault weapons ban, and he even launched a lawsuit against the gun industry designed to hold it liable for deaths with illegal guns -- a lawsuit bitterly fought by the NRA.
Since then, Rudy has shifted his rhetoric and positions on gun control in an apparent effort to win over supporters of "gun rights." His campaign says he's a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and he recently has said that states should set their own gun laws.
But Rudy's past positions on gun control -- such as his past support for Federal restrictions on access to handguns, as well as the lawsuit -- are viewed by gun rights advocates as directly hostile to the Second Amendment and to the freedom of states to set their own gun laws.
What's more, the fact that Rudy is going before the NRA seems at odds with the sentiments expressed in the 1995 interview video supplied by the rival campaign. In addition to suggesting that the NRA are "extremists," he also slams the group for their opposition to the assault weapons ban in particular and their intransigence on gun issues in general. Take a look:
Here's what Rudy says in the interview:
GIULIANI: "The NRA, for some reason, I think goes way overboard. It's almost what the extremists on the other side do. I think the extremists of the left and the extremists of the right have essentially the same tactic -- the slippery slope theory. 'If you give one point, then your entire argument is going to fall apart,' and we kind of get destroyed by that."
And:
GIULIANI: "The NRA is involved in a strategy that I don't understand. I don't understand fighting assault weapons -- the ban on assault weapons. I have a police department of 38,000 police officers -- it's the largest in the country. Those police officers are in jeopardy so long as there are assault weapons out there...so long as criminals can get their hands, outside of New York City, on guns that are objects or instruments of mass destruction..."I agree that there should be stronger penalties for people who have guns. I agree that it's the person who uses the gun that is the source of the real problem. The gun is also the source of a very big problem, and the NRA's, in essence, defense of assault weapons, and their unwillingness to deal with some of the realities here that we face in cities is a terrible, terrible mistake."
Comments (15)
lestatdelc wrote on September 18, 2007 4:44 PM:Pass the popcorn and set the TiVo.. this is gonna be fun to watch.
jeffgee wrote on September 18, 2007 4:50 PM:He was actually right back then about the NRA but now he has to pander to the GOP base, of which they are a big part.
Flip flop once again. Against it but now for it.
Both Romney and Giuliani... This is completly laughable. I hope the Dem who run against them eventually run a then/now ad. That would completly decribilize the GOP. Plus it would be ACTUAL flip-flopping not that silly "I voted for it before I voted against it" business.
www.campaigndiaries.com illlich wrote on September 18, 2007 5:26 PM:Politics destroys reason; in order to appeal to everyone, the candidate tempers his real beliefs in order to appeal to more constituents, ends up alienating many of his original supporters, ends up with a platform he doesn't really 100% support himself.
Now that's leadership.
Greg wrote on September 18, 2007 5:27 PM:if it's Rudy or Romney, it'll be interesting to see whether the media gives the GOP nominee anywhere near the level of "flip flop" grief that Kerry got...
lilybart wrote on September 18, 2007 5:38 PM:Is it possible to run a blue state or city and then run for nominee of the GOP? I don't think so.
gcs wrote on September 18, 2007 5:38 PM:I'm curious about something...
How do conservative voters square a gun-loving Republican candidate with that candidate's zeal for torture, Soviet-style eavesdropping and illegal wiretapping of U.S. citizens? I mean they can't all be so stupid to believe the "I have nothing to hide" lie.
Why doesn't someone point out to these nitwits that the only way the government can make everyone safe they have to know for sure you have nothing to hide by TAPPING YOUR PHONE AND BUGGING YOUR HOUSE.
I'll bet they won't be so gung ho. Then again, these morons sit on their asses and eat at McDonald's then wonder why they're fat.
Anonymous wrote on September 18, 2007 6:44 PM:It would be helpful if at least a couple times each week, liberals would take the time to point out bias they see in news. Call or write radio or TV stations, newspapers and magazines if you think the coverage isn't fair. It's no wonder the public has such a distorted view of us.
"Our top story tonight is the administration said Democrats are a pack of traitorous dogs who hate our troops." "Democrats are accused of playing politics..." "Democrats admitted..." "Democrats...socialism..."
What was said in the past doesn't count if you're a republican. The NRA lap dogs will embrace this fool just like they have others. It's always ( what you can do for me now) that counts with these people.
Utopia wrote on September 20, 2007 10:26 PM:"Those police officers are in jeopardy so long as there are assault weapons out there...so long as criminals can get their hands, outside of New York City, on guns that are objects or instruments of mass destruction..."
So, if Rudy takes the tack that gun control should be left to the states, as some have suggested, how's he going to square it with the quote above? Clearly the issue is interstate in nature. How's Rudy going to spin that to the NRA?
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Wow, you gotta really like the NRA's take on Rudy's comments (from the NY Post article linked to in the article:
"We take into consideration a candidate's past record and what they're saying now and what they'll do in the future," said NRA spokesman Andrew Arulanandam.
The past record and what they're saying now, I get. But what they'll do in the future? Are these guys saying they're prescient?
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