Poll: Thompson Leads In North Carolina, Hillary And Edwards Split With Dems

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Outside the Beltway wrote on September 6, 2007 3:20 PM:

Margin of error for Dems is 4-5%...

fishcatcher1 wrote on September 6, 2007 3:35 PM:

I'm a Republican who fondly remembers Richard Nixon, Nelson Rockefeller, George Bush Senior, James Jeffords, etc., as great leaders who got right the balance between social compassion and economic conservatism. I'll probably be voting democratic this year, if the democrats give me the right options. But their memory seems to be very short.

Hillary Clinton will be creamed if she's the democratic nominee. Have you forgotten Travelgate, Whitewater, the subpoenaed documents from the Rose law firm that we found in her closet, the unexplained phenomenal growth in her commodities account (here's a clue: commodities traders get to pick who wins and who loses after the trades are done). Bloggers could perform a useful service in reviewing history and alerting voters to the vulnerabilities that leading candidates face based on their past choices.

Outside the Beltway wrote on September 6, 2007 3:37 PM:

@ fishcatcher -

50/50 chance norman hsu ends up like Vince Foster

hadenough wrote on September 6, 2007 4:13 PM:

"Outside the Beltway wrote on September 6, 2007 3:37 PM:
@ fishcatcher -

50/50 chance norman hsu ends up like Vince Foster"

Heh Heh Heh... you are a loser like your buddy obama. Only a rube or an obamavangelist [but I repeat myself] would mouth those sickening repub talking points.

NCSteve wrote on September 6, 2007 4:26 PM:

From the state that gave the nation both Jesse Helms and Terry Sandford, and both John Edwards and Libby Dole (what Hillary would look and sound like if she was a Republican). I've lived here for twenty years and the politics of the place still baffles me.

FreakyBeaky wrote on September 6, 2007 4:27 PM:

Fishmonger - If you want your opinion on who should be the Democratic nominee for President to be considered, register as a Democrat and vote in your state's Democratic primary. Otherwise, shut up with the stupid Clinton-hater talking points on non-existent or trumped-up so-called scandals, particularly after we've had several years of the real thing under your party's so-called leadership.

Oh, and I was wondering how long it would take for some whacko to decide Hsu would "end up like Vince Foster". Lunatic. Nutter.

NCSteve wrote on September 6, 2007 4:36 PM:

Outside the Beltway:

If by "ends up like Vince Foster," you mean the subject of vile slander and creepy innuendo from Clinton haters, he's already there.

hadenough:

There,see how easy it is to frame a comeback to an attack on your favored candidate without launching a vitriolic ad hominem or responding to a smear with another smear?

elrapierwit wrote on September 6, 2007 4:48 PM:

This Statement by Kleefeld makes no visual sense:
"while Obama is invisible among whites and Edwards barely registers with blacks"

How in the world would a black male be invisible among whites and a white man barely register among blacks?

Give me a break...one is like a fly in buttermilk and the other like rice on chocolate.

elrapierwit wrote on September 6, 2007 4:54 PM:

According to the this Pew Research Center Survey, Obama is not at all "invisible among whites"

Overall, more than eight-in-ten Democratic and Democratic-leaning registered voters familiar with each candidate rate them favorably (86% for Clinton, 83% for Obama and 82% for Edwards). But Edwards trails the other two in the share who express a very favorable view. A third of Democratic voters (34%) view Clinton very favorably, and 29% say the same about Obama, compared with just 20% for Edwards.

Among African-Americans, the gap is much larger. Fully half of black Democrats rate Clinton (52%) and Obama (50%) very favorably – the highest ratings for these candidates from any segment of the party base. But just 18% of black Democrats feel as favorably toward John Edwards. In fact, 27% of black Democrats who rate Edwards give him an unfavorable rating, compared with just 16% of white Democrats.

By comparison, white Democrats give fairly similar ratings to all three leading candidates: Just over 80% rate each favorably, and while there is somewhat more enthusiasm for Clinton (29% very favorable) than Obama (23%) and Edwards (21%), the differences among whites are not nearly on the scale visible among blacks. Of the three, Edwards is the only candidate who receives a higher rating among white Democrats than among black Democrats

NCSteve wrote on September 6, 2007 4:55 PM:

Outside the Beltway:

On reread, I (and others) may have misunderstood your "Vince Foster" comment. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you were indulging in a little Swiftian sarcasm in response to the litany of all the made-up Clinton scandals the wingnuts are so eater to dust off and reassert.

hadenough:

Yeah, what I said about ad hominems and vitriol and smear with a smear? Still applies.

NCSteve wrote on September 6, 2007 5:11 PM:

Aaannd, as long as I'm madly revising my own comments on this thread, I'm only baffled by the Thomson thing. White Dems in NC mostly support Edwards? Of course they do, he's the native son but there's always been a lot of ambivilence about him (there's been more demonization of trial lawyers with less justification in this state than any other, I'd wager). Black Dems in NC mostly support Obama? Hardly a shocker. Hillary gets some of both? Again, not exactly a shocker.

But Thomson? I got nothing.

low-tech cyclist wrote on September 6, 2007 5:26 PM:

My theory about Edwards had been that blacks like him O.K., but that in this particular primary campaign, Hillary (who is trusted by black voters on account of Bill's track record) and Obama (who of course is black) were sucking all the oxygen out of that particular group, not leaving much for anyone else.

But if black voters really just don't like Edwards all that much, Edwards has to figure out what to do about that if he's playing to win. I don't think he can win the nomination on white votes alone.

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