Biden To Oppose Mukasey For Attorney General
It just gets worse and worse for Mukasey. Senator Joe Biden, who earlier had said that he'd give Michael Mukasey a chance to clarify his views on waterboarding, has just announced that he's coming out against Mukasey's confirmation -- meaning that all four Dem Senators running for President now are blocking Mukasey's path to the AG's office.
Biden indicated his opposition in a new statement just out from his office in response to Mukasey's refusal this afternoon to clarify whether waterboarding is illegal.
“Waterboarding is by any standard, torture," Biden said. "We need to send a clear message that torture, inhumane, and degrading treatment of detainees is unacceptable and is not permitted by U.S. law. Period. We cannot have a United States Attorney General who will equivocate and dissemble on this matter. Too much is at stake.”
In addition to Biden, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Chris Dodd all stand opposed to Mukasey, as does John Edwards. Biden's full statement after the jump.
“I am disappointed by Judge Mukasey’s response. He was asked a direct question on the specifics of waterboarding and he refused to unequivocally state that this practice is torture. For this reason, I shall oppose his nomination to be the United States Attorney General.“Waterboarding is by any standard, torture. I called on my colleagues today to support legislation I introduced this summer banning waterboarding and other forms of torture. When we use torture or other cruel and inhumane treatment of detainees, we diminish our ability to argue that the same techniques should not be used against our own troops. We need to send a clear message that torture, inhumane, and degrading treatment of detainees is unacceptable and is not permitted by U.S. law. Period. We cannot have a United States Attorney General who will equivocate and dissemble on this matter. Too much is at stake.”
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Mukasey here's the script:
(FIRST THE SET-UP)
DEMOCRAT#1:
Let's turn to illegal narcotics.
If a previously-reliable, confidential informant
notified your staff that he saw an illegal alien
transporting cocaine into the US. And then upon
investigation this proved to be accurate would you
prosecute the illegal alien?
MUKASEY:
Of course. You don't have to be a citizen to break the law.
DEMOCRAT#1:
How did you determine it was worth prosecuting?
MUKASEY:
(Any answer here is virtually irrelevant.)
(Setting him up with DEMOCRAT#1's hypothetical is key here.
If he won't answer that one either then
we paint him as pro-drug smuggling.
Now for the spike.)
DEMOCRAT#2:
You say you're against torture.
MUKASEY:
America can not and does not torture.
DEMOCRAT#2:
Is waterboarding torture?
MUKASEY:
If it's torture then we won't do it
DEMOCRAT#2:
Ok. If you got an authenticated videotape of
suspected terrorists being systematically
gang-raped while in US custody would you stop it?
Would you prosecute the rapists?
MUKASEY:
Yes, of course.
DEMOCRAT#2:
Ok, now we're making progress. How could you make
that assessment? Why would you prosecute this as
torture? What criteria are you using? By what
measure?
MUKASEY:
I know torture when I see it from my
understanding of the law.
DEMOCRAT#2:
Ok, let's calibrate that understanding. We know
you at least acknowledge rape to be torture. What
about holding someone upsidedown with a hood on
while you pour water to simulate the experience
of drowning? Would you prosecute that? Why or why
not?
(((((Then proceed to drill down on the "prosecute
or not?" question with a dozen other hypothetical
torture techniques))))
-----
ALTERNATE ENDING:
DEMOCRAT#2:
Ok. If you got an authenticated videotape of
suspected terrorists being systematically
gang-raped while in US custody would you stop it?
Would you prosecute the rapists?
MUKASEY:
I won't comment on hypotheticals.
DEMOCRAT#2:
Well you answered DEMOCRAT#1's hypothetical!
Why won't you answer mine?
Because you have some reason to believe that this
is actually happening and you don't want to
comment on something that may come before you? So
you're calling the military gang-rapists? I won't
stand for that implication. Now answer this
extreme hypothetical or have you no capacity for
critical thinking? I will keep repeating this
question for the duration of my time. You must
answer. Again, If you got an authenticated
videotape of suspected terrorists being
systematically gang-raped while in US custody
would you stop it? Would you prosecute the
rapists?
MUKASEY:
I would have to research that.
DEMOCRAT#2:
Ok, you have a day to come up with an answer of
if you would prosecute or not. That is
fundamentally your job as the AG. if you can't
answer that question you're admitting your
incompetent. It is a "yes or no" question. There
is no hedge. If you refuse to definitively say
you would prosecute the rapists then we will have
no other conclusion to draw than that you approve
of gang-rape of prisoners & detainees.
And if your daughter or wife or college friend
were erroneously designated an "enemy combatant"
that you would be ok with that woman being
gang-raped. It's that serious.
You're either pro-gang-rape or your against
gang-rape.
I didn't understand your muttering. What was that?
Another semantic hedge with conditional
statements?
Ok, let it be known to all...Mr. Mukasey supports
gang rape!
daniel155:
"Doesn't bode well for the confirmation process in the future though whoever is elected."
Exactly.
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