Election Central | Talking Points Memo | McCain: Rudy's Torture Views Show He's Not Qualified To Lead Military

McCain: Rudy's Torture Views Show He's Not Qualified To Lead Military

By Eric Kleefeld - November 5, 2007, 9:23AM

John McCain is throwing another rhetorical punch at Rudy Giuliani on the torture issue, this time over Rudy's comparison of "intensive questioning" to the tactics he used to go after the mafia.

“When someone says waterboarding is similar to harsh interrogation techniques used against the mafia in New York City, they do not have enough experience to lead our military,” McCain told a New Hampshire town hall last night.

Rudy told Bloomberg TV on Friday, "Intensive questioning works. If I didn't use intensive questioning, there would be a lot of Mafia guys running around New York right now, and crime would be a lot higher in New York than it is."

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Robert Bickers wrote on November 5, 2007 10:31 AM:

When someone votes for Mukasey they have nothing to say about anyone elses stand or comments on torture.

Glenn wrote on November 5, 2007 10:49 AM:

So let me get this straight: the former US Attorney for Manhattan is now saying that he obtained Mafia convictions by utilizing interrogation techniques taht come close to being torture? That's rather big news, isn't it? I would think some enterprising defense attorney could make a little hay with Giuliani's claim.

RobertSeattle wrote on November 5, 2007 10:52 AM:

But has McCain ever actually done something to stop the Bush Administations Torture Policy?

TheraP wrote on November 5, 2007 10:55 AM:

It's getting comical here!

The Repubs are now tying themselves up in pretzels - and they'll never admit it's torture!

Rick James wrote on November 5, 2007 10:56 AM:

America has changed so much. There was a time, not long ago, that any candidate who even mentioned torture as an option would have been considered a fringe lunatic to be avoided at all costs.

Now the Republican candidates compete to be the biggest champion of torture and the Democrats hold their noses while voting for Attorney Generals that has all but said that he would not act against torture.

Where have our ethics gone? If we continue down this road you will not be able to tell the difference between America and the repressive regimes we quite rightly found so repugnant.

While it is the Republicans that are taking us down into the ethical gutter it is the Democrats that have let us down the most by not having the courage to stand up for America and its Constitution. As the saying goes; “evil prevails when good men do nothing”!

Legalize wrote on November 5, 2007 11:12 AM:

Meanwhile, St. McCain gives a big thumbs up to Bush Co.'s newest pro-torture AG.

freepatriot wrote on November 5, 2007 11:24 AM:

so rudy is unfit to be presnit because of his claims to having used torture

but mulkasy IS FIT to serve as attorney general because mulkasy wouldn't know torture if he saw it happening

is there a consistent logic in that thinking

mccain might be the poster boy for the fight against torture

look how bad torture fucked john mccain up. the guy don't think straight any more

M Peachbush wrote on November 5, 2007 11:28 AM:

Abner Louima was in the Mafia?

Steve G wrote on November 5, 2007 11:37 AM:

McCain did fight hard for the anti-torture amendment. It was good legislation until he caved at the end and let Bush/Cheney and co. turn it into political cover legislation. I do think McCain is concerned about torture but he consistently caves to Bush on issues no matter how right he might be or how principled the cause.

If you told me a Republican was going to win this year McCain would be the one who would scare me the least but I had a lot more faith in him when he was calling the religious right agents of intolerance than I do since he's been pandering to said agents at every opportunity.

Anonymous wrote on November 5, 2007 11:40 AM:

Keep up the good work, Rudy. The more stuff like this that you spout, the more people will realize that you're nuts.

bartcopfan wrote on November 5, 2007 11:44 AM:

Abner Louima was in the Mafia?

Hilarious, sadly.

TJ wrote on November 5, 2007 11:45 AM:

I hope the people of NYC are getting a good look at who they elected for so many years. I don't see how such a fascist like Rudy can get elected in NYC. Guess the same way Romney was elected as the gov of Mass. I hope the dems will finally get out next year & vote or take advantage of the absentee option for a change. The repubs are by far a minority, but, they vote! If they win elections, it's because non-repug's let them!

etaoin wrote on November 5, 2007 11:51 AM:

I don't know--Rudy recently seems crazier than ever. I suspect it's his neocon advisers pushing him further and further into insanity.

The difference between Rudy as mayor and Rudy now is that the city of New York--the media, the courts, other politicians--could constrain him, shame him into behaving at least a little bit. Now that he's appealing to the Idaho, Minuteman and Florida Cuban vote, he feels no constraints whatsoever.

Killjoy wrote on November 5, 2007 12:17 PM:

What makes his boast even more hilarious is Rudy installed "Mafia guy" Bernie Kerik as his chief of police and pushed for the same guy to be head of Homeland Security!

yellowdogD wrote on November 5, 2007 12:24 PM:

Robert Seattle

In a word, no.

Orwell's Intuition wrote on November 5, 2007 2:27 PM:

Patrick Fitzgerald has prosecuted "a lot of Mafia guys" in his career. Any information gained from a suspect subjected to harsh interrogation techniques on the same level as waterboarding would be considered fruit of the poison tree, so to speak, and thrown out of court.

To turn Rudy's boast around: How many Mafia guys are still running around in New York because people under Rudy's command screwed up the case for the prosecution by using "harsh interrogation techniques"?

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