Huckabee Adviser Clarifies Remark About Homosexuality And Necrophilia: They're Both "Aberrant Behavior," But They're At "Opposite Ends Of The Spectrum"
Oh, man. One of Mike Huckabee's chief advisers has just attempted to clarify the Arkansas Governor's apparent equating of homosexuality and necrophilia.
In an interview with TPM Election Central, Joe Carter, Huckabee's director of research, argued that while Huckabee does think both fall in the category of "aberrant behavior," he's not arguing that they're the same and sees them as being at "opposite ends of the spectrum" of such behavior.
As first reported yesterday by David Corn at Mother Jones, Huckabee said the following in a 1998 book he co-wrote called Kids Who Kill:
It is now difficult to keep track of the vast array of publicly endorsed and institutionally supported aberrations—from homosexuality and pedophilia to sadomasochism and necrophilia.
When we asked Carter if Huckabee stood by this quote, he didn't disavow the comment. But he sought to clarify its meaning, denying our suggestion that the quote equated homosexuality and necrophilia.
"He's not equating homosexuality with necrophilia," Carter told us. "He's saying there's a range of aberrant behavior. He considers homosexuality aberrant, but that's at one end of the spectrum. Necrophilia is at the other end."
Carter added: "No way is he saying that homosexuality is like having sex with dead people. That's not it at all."
Asked how one measured what rated where on this spectrum of aberrant behavior, Carter said: "He was talking about aberrant sexual behavior. Sado masochism and necrophilia are on the further end of the spectrum."
Asked if this meant that Huckabee at least saw homosexuality and necrophilia as belonging to the same behavioral category, Carter said:
"That's like saying any sex is the same. Yes, he considers both aberrant, but no, he does not equate the two in any way."
Asked to elaborate further, Carter said: "He was describing behavior. He's not casting judgment on the people themselves. His point is, the culture is becoming more accepting of aberrant behaviors."
Asked about an even harsher description of homosexuality -- back in 1992 Huckabee described it as not just "aberrant," but an "unnatural, and sinful lifestyle" -- Carter said Huckabee stood by it.
"He's not going to change his stance on that," Carter said. "He considers homosexual behavior aberrant. But there are degrees of aberrant behavior. He's not saying they're equally as bad. There's a very big distinction there."
Comments (149)
Amy wrote on December 18, 2007 5:07 PM:So torture is okay as long as it's not in a loving bed?
Greg wrote on December 18, 2007 5:10 PM:hah -- excellent.
Oh Huck wrote on December 18, 2007 5:13 PM:Kind of like if Up Chuck Huck were getting banged from behind by Democrats
or Republicans -
different ends of the spectrum - but one is right.
So where do we put Huckster on the Crazy Scale? It runs from eccentric cretin to batsh*t crazy.
freaktown wrote on December 18, 2007 5:14 PM:These are the kinds of things that happen when you mix religion and politics.
In a free society, i should be allowed to have sex with anyone (as long as they're consenting) and not have to be called a necrophiliac.
But when you start mixing religion and "morals" and other subjective things in with an objective rule of law this is what you get.
I hope Huckabee doesn't win because i don't want this man in the white house issuing statements telling me how to live my life.
Hey Huck, MY god says its ok for me to have sex with another man. So why should your god get preferential policy treatment over mine?
This is why secularism is soooo very important to a free society.
Unfortunately, we're moving further and further away from that and towards a "theocracy" where one man's religious morals will determine the law of the land....
Alex wrote on December 18, 2007 5:14 PM:Interesting--straight people into ball gags are worse than the gays?
Maybe at the next GOP debate someone in a gimp suit can ask a question of Governor Huckabee.
Huh(ck) wrote on December 18, 2007 5:16 PM:different ends of the rectum spectrum
Up Chuck wrote on December 18, 2007 5:18 PM: The only thing Huck allows in that so very sacred place is a real big christain crosssssssss oh Yeah, oh yeah -
that old time religion baby
"The culture is becoming more accepting of aberrant sexual behaviors"???
Society is accepting of necrophilia? Pedophilia? Really??
No wonder Repubs want to cower under this man's skirt. They live in a damn scary place.
Love God wrote on December 18, 2007 5:27 PM:Give me a Great big sermon - thats it -
harder harder - oh yeah - oh God -oh God
preach to me now - oh my God -Yes Yes Yes-
OH YEsssssssss - Jesus Christ
OK now I will vote for you
bvd wrote on December 18, 2007 5:28 PM:One would have to have tried both to make an honest comparison.
Huck? Huck?
ColinATL wrote on December 18, 2007 5:36 PM:You know, I understand what Huck's research dude is trying to do, and I understand what he's saying about Huck's earlier comment. He does say it's a spectrum. But the questioner should have pursued that line of reasoning a little further.
Sure I can see that homosexuality and necrophilia are at opposite ends of this spectrum given the grammatical structure of the statement. But does that mean that pedophilia is at the same end of the spectrum as homosexuality, and that sadomasochism is at the other end with necrophilia? This is the logical extension of his argument.
So pedophilia is "less aberrant" and sadomasochism is "more aberrant?" Pedophilia is the same as homosexuality? And necrophiliacs are the same as sadomasochists? Consenting adult behaviors should be less aberrant, and sex with nonconsenting corpses and children should be more aberrant.
This obviously isn't a spectrum of aberrant bahavior, it's a grab bag of things Huck doesn't like strung together to equate them all. It's obvious this is what he was trying to do, and no amount of backpeddling on Huck's or his campaign's part can rewrite his apparently extremist views...
David wrote on December 18, 2007 5:38 PM:I think you missed the point. His quote says "from homosexuality and pedophilia TO sadomasochism and necrophilia". So the range runs from h & p to s & n. He's equating homosexuality with pedophilia, not with necrophilia. Feel better?
Jon wrote on December 18, 2007 5:43 PM:I've got to ask - who exactly did Huckabee think was publicly endorsing and institutionally supporting necrophilia? Or for that matter, pedophilia? At least without some form of anonymity to hide behind?
Rionn Fears Malechem wrote on December 18, 2007 5:47 PM:Society is becoming more accepting of necrophilia. We've had sympathetic necrophiliacs in St. Elsewhere, Scrubs and Six Feet Under, I think. I think it was frowned up in the 60s.
Someone more familiar with the television shows might be able to help me out, but I think any show based in a hospital eventually trots out a necrophiliac pathologist.
destor23 wrote on December 18, 2007 5:47 PM:Get Huckabee to make a graph. It's too bad the Youtube debates are over...
CParis wrote on December 18, 2007 5:51 PM:I'm with Jon - where are the public funds for my sex toys? I'm still waiting for my gubmint-issued bondage cuffs.
Dave wrote on December 18, 2007 5:51 PM:Yeah, sounds like if my wife and I engage in some playful spanking, it's not only worse than homosexual fornication, it's right up there with fucking a dead guy. This is starting to get interesting.
Dave Blackburn wrote on December 18, 2007 5:52 PM:"Homosexual necrophilia is no laughing matter", he said in dead Ernest.
cms wrote on December 18, 2007 6:01 PM:I'm reminded of one of Obama's lines from the 2004 speech: "We coach little league in the blue states, and yes, we have gay friends in the red states."
Honestly, is calling homosexuality "aberrant" behavior really going to fly over the long haul?
The difference between homosexual sex between consenting adults and necrophilia is that with necrophilia only one person is committing a sin.
Joe Bauers wrote on December 18, 2007 6:04 PM:As a proud member of the North American Man Dead-Boy Love Association (NAMDBLA), I see absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality, pedophilia, or necrophilia.
Terry wrote on December 18, 2007 6:15 PM:Aberrant behavior would have to include a grown man having an imaginary friend named jesus, right?
glennpdx wrote on December 18, 2007 6:34 PM:Hey, in Huckabee world, doggie style is aberrant. He doesn't really bother with any scales. We're all damned to hell in his book...
Yep, Huck's my kinda guy. Presidential material if I ever saw it...
Since when is homosexuality "institutionally supported"? Or does Huck think it is because we haven't gone out and jailed or deported all of America's gay people?
Since when is pedophilia "institutionally supported"? We actually do arrest and jail pedophiles.
And while necrophilia kinda creeps me out, I didn't think it was a big problem.
Sadomasochism? As long as there's a safe word....
dog torturing father preacher man wrote on December 18, 2007 6:40 PM:dispicable
why did he let he son go unpunished
after torturing a dog.
Hey at least Michel Vick must be happy along with rapists at future commutation
Powkat wrote on December 18, 2007 6:59 PM:He's still saying that being gay is aberrant - and that is still an extremely offensive thing to say. No matter how hard he tries to hide it with soft words and smiles - the guy is the basic southern bigot, religious version.
joshers wrote on December 18, 2007 7:01 PM:I'd like to know if Huck can identify any examples of "publicly endorsed and institutionally supported" necrophilia?? Same goes for pedophelia. WTF is he talking about?
r€nato wrote on December 18, 2007 7:02 PM:where does Republican man-on-man bathroom stall sex fit on Hickabee's continuum?
colonpowwow wrote on December 18, 2007 7:02 PM:Ross Best:
Man, that's so freakin' funny! ROTFLMAO!
IMHO, the (ross) best of the bunch of riotous comments here.
r€nato wrote on December 18, 2007 7:05 PM:for that matter, where does 50ish Congressman pursuing encounters with teenaged boys fit on Hickabee's continuum?
How about married men addicted to high-priced prostitutes?
People who live in glass houses...
Bob wrote on December 18, 2007 7:14 PM:"We've had sympathetic necrophiliacs in St. Elsewhere, Scrubs and Six Feet Under"
I assume you're joking. I don't recall any necrophiliacs in SFU, sympathetic or otherwise.
CW wrote on December 18, 2007 7:21 PM:Excuse me for saying this, but I'm not entirely certain that I want anyone to "clarify" a remark about homosexuality and necrophilia. Thank you.
Mike Huckabee wrote on December 18, 2007 7:22 PM:In 1988 I did independent tests to see firsthand where various sexual practices stood on the continuum of aberrant A to abberant B.
My finding: homosexuality is abberrant and so is necrophilia. However, homosexuality is at one end of the abberrant spectrum, at Aberrant A. Necrophilia is at the opposite end, at Abberant B.
I note that despite my loss of 100 pounds of fat, I still love bears. I'm going on Craig's List later to find me some pig bottom in Des Moines. Anybody interested? If so, just email me.
Furious wrote on December 18, 2007 7:45 PM:For more background on Mike Huckabee the dangerous extremist and radical reactionary, see:
- "Top 10 Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."
- "10 More Moments in Mike Huckabee's Extremism."
A handful of deeply disturbed individuals going on shooting sprees is hardly indicative of a "culture in decline". This is no more fair than to judge all Muslims based on the behavior of Bin Louden. This is a slap in the face and a smear against Americans in general. (Isn’t the left which is often accused of being “anti-American”?)
Of course fundimentalists “non-believers” as the source of all evil, Yet, there seems to be little correlation between religiosity and the overall welfare of society. The rest of the industrialized world is much more secular than the US, yet they have lower levels of teen pregnancy, abortion and homicide than we do.
If you want to take a look at a “degenerate culture” go to Eastern Pakistan or Afghanistan, both societies dominated by religious fundamentalist. Or another example is the deep south of the recent past. Many people in the South less than a few generations ago had strong families and put church and faith at the center of their lives. Yet many of these “Godly” people had no problem with subjugating African Americans. Indeed, in some parts of the South a lynching was a cause for a picnic. Imagine the gruesome scene: A family just out of church celebrating in front a fresh corpse hung on tree. (Gotta lover those old time family values, right?)
Of course, we recently have all these “Bible based believers” who turned out to be closet homosexuals or had sex with prostitutes, etc.
The bitter irony is that this book was written at a time when homicide rates and teen pregnancies and drug use were all in decline. But, apparently, Huckibee doesn’t mind letting a few inconvenient facts get in the way of a good invective.
Sadism, necrophilia, and bestiality is just
beating a dead horse.
Ask Huck at what end of the spectrum of aberrance lies the act of knifing and stoning a stray dog to death as it swings by it's legs hung from a tree.
Michaelinnorfolk wrote on December 18, 2007 8:39 PM:The more that comes out about Huckabee, the more of a nut case he appears. Yet his popularity within the GOP in Iowa is increasing. I guess that shows how low the party has fallen when it comes to logic and rational thought.
CalD wrote on December 18, 2007 8:44 PM:So is Huckabee against all gay sex or just gay dead sex?
Jbill wrote on December 18, 2007 8:48 PM:Rather than a random grab-bag of unsavory topics for GOP ears, the list is more like a set of parallel slippery slopes. He might be saying 'Homosexuality leads to pedophilia as sadomasicism leads to necrophilia'.
While Huck is happy to call gays and the S&M crowd 'abberent', he's not ready to own up to his deeper message.
lestatdelc wrote on December 18, 2007 8:56 PM:Amy wrote on December 18, 2007 5:07 PM:So torture is okay as long as it's not in a loving bed?
OMFG. That is the funniest (and scathing) rejoinder I have read in months. Priceless.
Plumb Bob wrote on December 18, 2007 9:02 PM:Oh, pulleeeeeeZ.
The quotation you're all jabbering about is not objectionable in any way other than that. It's clear on the face of it that the man was listing what he considered sexually aberrant behavior.
Folks, if your objection is "We disagree, we don't think homosexuality is aberrant," just say that. You actually think you're being clever by deliberately confuting homosexuality and necrophilia disingenuously?
r€nato wrote on December 18, 2007 9:09 PM:Plumb Bob, come on. It was Huckabee who was deliberately conflating homosexuality and necrophilia. Why else mention both in the same sentence?
DickTater wrote on December 18, 2007 9:14 PM:Well if Lifeless Larry Craig is involved, I'd say that homosexuality and necrophilia are almost the same thing. Hook his cadaverous legs up to some electrodes and his foot taps uncontrollably. Weekend at Larry's.
The Facilitatrix wrote on December 18, 2007 9:52 PM:If Greg gets the chance to query Huckabee's director of propaganda, I mean research, again, I'd like to have his take on the comparative harm that each of these aberrant behaviors inflicts on the participants.
Although I would not want to be the object of a necrophiliac's affection (how about a good argument for cremation?), the one "aberration" out of the four (and I think that we have to acknowledge that pedophilia comes second on the continuum from homosexuality to necrophilia)that is devastatingly harmful is pedophilia. Two (and possibly three) involve mutual consent, while pedophilia involves unforgivable, abominable victimization.
No matter how you parse it, Huckabee's statement is indefensible. Leave out any judgment on what's aberrant or not and which "aberrations" are "publicly endorsed and institutionally supported" (is he counting NAMBLA?); to include pedophilia in with the others--tantamount to equating rape with speeding, shoplifting, and flashing--is beyond the pale.
Fancy Pants wrote on December 18, 2007 10:19 PM:I wonder how Huck feels about lesbian bed death...?
hello_world wrote on December 18, 2007 10:27 PM:So, wait a minute. So, supposedly, it goes homosexuality > pedophilia > sadomasochism > necrophilia? So in Huck's world, two consenting adults who might like to spank one another is worse than sexually assaulting a small child? Or is Huck trying to suggest that homosexuality is the MOST "abhorrent" on his list, and necrophilia is a relativity victimless endeavor? I can never keep up now a days.
St Peter of St Paul wrote on December 18, 2007 11:25 PM:Dead Ernest... Weekend at Larry's... Beating a dead horse... NAMDBLA... Imaginary friend named Jesus.
I haven't laughed this much in weeks! Six weeks, to be exact. I guess we know where the comedy writers are hanging out during the strike.
Truthwhip wrote on December 19, 2007 12:16 AM:No doubt Huckleberry has engaged in at least a few of the activities and behaviors listed on this "spectrum" of his.
Those who so frequently get up on their high horse to talk about sex, religion and morality, always seem to end up being the most pathetically sick, twisted and insane of all individuals.
And the fact that the word love is never, ever mentioned when such people talk about sex is very telling indeed (in my view).
Personally, I'd be willing to bet that at the very least Huckleberry has ecstatically sucked off Larry Craig, Bob Allen, Mark Foley and/or a host of other "Good-Christian-Conservative-Republican" politicians who are actually gay. Or has possibly engaged in some marathon sessions of incredibly violent, crystal meth-induced anal sex with a fellow Evangelical Pastor -- such as Ted Haggard, for instance.
Or perhaps despite all his pious rhetoric, Huckleberry has actually raped some children. Or maybe when he was a teenager out there in the sticks where he comes from, he once decided to f*ck the corpse of a dead animal (maybe even one he hunted and killed himself?).
While he claims that "women should always be submissive to their husbands" the real truth may well be that Huckleberry adores having his wife dress up like a nasty, vinyl-clad dominatrix, so she can tie him up, burn his ass with lit cigarettes, and then thrash the crap out of him with a cat o' nine tails until he whimpers for "Mummy!"
With these kind of fanatics, you just never know. Any or all of the above behaviors, or mere fantasies focused on these things, are in fact, a very real possibility.
Tim Hulsey wrote on December 19, 2007 12:23 AM:To be fair, Huckabee may never have said this. He didn't write very much of Kids Who Kill, and this particular sentence doesn't sound like it came from one of the chapters he's responsible for. The chapter that sounds most like Huck comes near the end, and it's chock full of Bible quotes with parenthetical citations.
JimF wrote on December 19, 2007 12:27 AM:Who exactly are the vast array of public endorsers and institutional supporters? I can see BillO and Rush going in for some of this stuff but who else? Fox and MSNBC?
John pavelec wrote on December 19, 2007 12:43 AM:I don't think the spokesperson told us which Huckabee believed to be worse, necrophilia or gay sex. Perhaps the reporters should have followed up.
Zoe wrote on December 19, 2007 12:51 AM:He's obviously not a real Christian; real Christians know that there is no difference between sins. All sin is the same; if Mr. Huckabee believes homosexuality and necrophilia are both sins, then he can't wriggle out of it politically by claiming they don't equate. Sheesh. Get it right, tool of Satan.
Rusty Scalf wrote on December 19, 2007 1:02 AM:There's no question that sadomasochism is institutionally supported; It has lots of support within the CIA for example. But Necrophelia? How is necrophelia institutionally supported?
Just curious.
Mark Allen wrote on December 19, 2007 7:49 AM:Please tell this poor worried Englishman that you're not going to elect this cretin!
I would have said "...this cretin, or anyone of a similar vein", but that would seem to rule out most if not all of the contenders.
Dave wrote on December 19, 2007 9:16 AM:Never posted before but want to point out that when they were bringing this up on MSNBC this morning there was an additional word in the main comment that you don't have here.
Environmentalists. As in they get the same ire as homosexuals or necropheliacs for abberant behavior.
Whether MSNBC added that or it was missed here I don't know, wouldn't buy a copy of the book to find out.
Tim wrote on December 19, 2007 9:49 AM:how is my love of big muscular guys the same as some deranged pedo that abuses children of both genders? Huckabee is caught in the web of his own fears and preacher habit of judging and labeling any who don't attend his church and I find him vulgar and offensive. Give me Guliani!
Peter wrote on December 19, 2007 10:05 AM:Obviously homosexuality and necrophilia are on opposite ends of whatever spectrum.
What's just as disturbing and even more troubling is that Huck does actually equate "homosexuality AND pedophilia"... Sheesh.
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Using his logic, if homosexuality and necrophilia are on opposite ends of the spectrum, then that would mean that their grouped pairs are on the opposite ends of the spectrum, and therefore he was equating homosexuals to pedophiliacs and sadomasochists to necrophiliacs. Those are just wrong. I would have to say that I view pedophilia as worse than necrophilia. At least necrophiliacs aren't fucking someone up for life. Sadomasochism is only bad depending on how it's done. I know some very well adjusted people who engage in the BDSM lifestyle.
Homosexuality and BDSM are normal but at only about 10% a piece, they aren't the norm, and therefore are aberrations by one particular use of the word, but are in no sense as aberrant as pedophilia. No, I think his explanation doesn't hold up. It's far more likely that Huckabee is just a bigoted asshat.
Graham wrote on December 19, 2007 5:09 PM:Plumb Bob..."We disagree, we don't think homosexuality is aberrant."
Gina wrote on December 19, 2007 5:16 PM:What does it MATTER that he thinks homosexuality is "sinful" or "aberrant"? Sky-diving is also "aberrant" in that it deviates from normal behavior (people don't usually throw themselves out of airplanes for fun, but a select few DO). And what about "sinful"? His personal religious perspective has to do with secular law WHY??
azzy23 wrote on December 19, 2007 5:24 PM:I'd like to point something out here that is really bothering me... I was raised in religious school, surrounded by evangelical southern baptists... and we were ALWAYS taught that sin is sin. There aren't degrees of sin. One sin isn't worse than others, all sin is sin.
Whether you think homosexuality is the same as necrophilia is irrelevant to the point that these guys are quantifying sin; making some sins worse than others. Playing God, if you will...
Dr. Paul N. Sibley-Schreiber wrote on December 19, 2007 5:51 PM:Mike Huckabee is creating a dangerous environment in American politics. He is using his radical, uninformed, naive fundamentalism as a cudgel against equality for all people and continues to spew hatred as a rallying cry to uplift the self righteous among us. Social conservatism has placed a black mark on our history. He has forgotten that the, "WE," in We the People are not just the majority, but ALL of US. Are WE the People of these United States willing to let one group of people DICTATE the policies of ALL the People? I should think, NOT! Mr. Huckabee, keep your form of morality in your church and not in our government!
StelleWriter wrote on December 19, 2007 6:06 PM:So, what difference is there between Huck and his oppinion and that of HRC and Frank Barney? Huck is indicating that he feels homo love is not worthy of protection,..... likewise HRC and Congressman Frank Barney do not feel that Transgender qualifies for consideration and needing protection.
All the same to me, I and my medical birth defects are excluded from society and the rights everyone else seems to enjoy.
What is the difference??? Tell me!!!
Huckabee said the following in a 1998 book he co-wrote called Kids Who Kill:
"It is now difficult to keep track of the vast array of publicly endorsed and institutionally supported aberrations—from homosexuality and pedophilia to sadomasochism and necrophilia."
It's nice to know that Huckabee acknowledges that Gays and Lesbians are the opposite from dead people. But I do have 2 questions:
Who "publicly endorsed" necrophilia? What institution supports necrophilia? As a UU minister and Right to Marry lobbyist who prides herself on being current with the liberal agenda, I must admit I'm stumped!
i've had a whole ot grrreat sex, and some that was really Dead, but none that was anywhere nearly as bad as listening to huckabe and his sanctimonious lot.
I expect necrophilic sex is like having sex with THAT bunch...is that where huck gets his expertise on the subject?
~old 74
STEVEN BERNIER wrote on December 19, 2007 6:27 PM:What about fantasies about S&Mwher you nail a near naked guy to a cross, torture him to death, stuff himm in a hole, and say he's miraculously arisen?
Sounds like UFOs. Jesus- dead- necromancy - creating mass delusional behaviors based on mythology and "sightings".
It's okay to believe in. condemn, murder, torture, judge, and elect Presidents based on a dead guy, just don't let the Gays near him or they'll screw him ....
David wrote on December 19, 2007 6:42 PM:Oh, poor Hucky :( Any person who is SOOOO bent on being this hateful MUST be "in the closet" himself! History has shown this to be true. The PAST 7 SEVEN YEARS of Republicans' hypocrisy of homophobia has shown THIS to be true (3 GOPers have been outed via their sexual events in bathrooms, with prostitutes, and through stalking young government Pages. But, YECK! No gay man would want him. This is what happens when you do NOT humanly evilve in your life! I was raised republican; yet, when I graduated college and moved out oj my own, I thought for myself and switched to The Democratic Party. Oh, poor Hucky. He missed the Boat of Evolution!
Benu wrote on December 19, 2007 6:43 PM:I think the reason Huck grouped his sins this way was to give a shout out to his friends in congress. Now "homosexuality and pedophilia" obviously refer to the accepted acts of Republican Congressmen. The acts described as on the "opposite ends of the spectrum" are those done by our boys (and girls) in Blue. Everybody knows that Democrats like to rough up their dead bodies before they get to work (I heard it on Fox news just this morning).
Just a thought.
P.S. As long as those guys shout out "Hail Mary" while using their Rosary as a lasso on their boys the are forgiven for their sins.
(God likes to watch)
Amen
Myke wrote on December 19, 2007 6:54 PM:I have a homosexual brother-in-law and he is one of the best people you could meet and I love him. And he doesn't hang dogs.
lisa wrote on December 19, 2007 6:55 PM:I guess being a bisexual BDSM switch makes me a sinner. Boy I'm really screwed when he finds out I'm also a Witch!
freedom33 wrote on December 19, 2007 6:55 PM:Hmm- someone should do an interview with Ann Coulter and see if she matches up with Mike Hiccup-bee.
What Hiccup-bee was trying to say was that homosexuality, pedophilia, sadomasochism and necrophilia are all the same-- in that all of them are practised regularly by Republican officials. He was trying to assure likewise-doing Republicans that it's okay: he'll look the other way when their pants are caught down,too.
Mark wrote on December 19, 2007 7:00 PM:Sounds like something Huckleberry Hound would say...... anyone sure these aren't the same person?
Well, now I think about it, Huckleberry Hound isn't that stupid.....
BCTinNYC wrote on December 19, 2007 7:04 PM:This is the Family Research Council's blogsite, which is edited by Joe Carter, the referenced "director of research" for the Huckabee campaign. You can use it to link to the generally hateful parent website of the FRC. What the FRC doesn't seem to want anyone to know is that a number of FRC senior advisors and staff are directly involved with Huckabee's campaign, including Charmaine Yoest, a regular FRC hatebag.
Why the secrecy? Spread the word! We are watching carefully, FRC.
Wayne wrote on December 19, 2007 7:05 PM:Wonder if Gov Buckabee ever pulled his wife away from his lap? Or ran into the other room if she bent over in front of him? This guy is nothing but a right wing religious loon with a smile.
As far as Rudy Gugs goes I have a feeling he committed sodomy with his various girlfriends while state tax money was providing their security.
Keith wrote on December 19, 2007 7:13 PM:I am not going to get into what Huckabee's politics and views are, just what his statement (the subject of this article) says.
If you are saying that Huckabee's people have issued a new statement "denying our suggestion that the quote equated homosexuality and necrophilia," I say that of course they would and should do that.
If you think that his original statement did in fact equate homosexuality and necrophilia, then you are an idiot. It is an absurd suggestion. When someone speaks of "soup to nuts," does that imply that soup equals nuts? When speaking of the range of seasons, "from fall and winter to spring and summer," does that imply that fall and winter equals spring and summer?
Please. Don't be an idiot. Don't try to make it seem that people are saying things they clearly are not saying. You lose your entire credibility by idiotic assertions like this. It does no one any good whatsoever, proves nothing, except that you do not understand deductive thinking at all.
And by the way, please do not equate my attack on your lack of logical thinking with an attack on homosexuality. Got it? I'm gay. I don't need a misguided defender on my side.
Sue wrote on December 19, 2007 7:15 PM:So, if sadomasochism and necrophilia are at the opposite end of the spectrum.....does that mean that homesexuality and pedophelia are at the same end?
I am sick and tired of people equating homosexuals and pedophiles. Just as many straight people as homosexual people do awful things....and guess what folks? It has nothing to do with what happens in the bedroom between two consenting adults.
yana wrote on December 19, 2007 7:18 PM:can we just all agree that the man is an idiot and should not be elected as president?
Faye wrote on December 19, 2007 7:24 PM:Keith, what bothers me is the phrasing
"from homosexuality and pedophilia to sadomasochism and necrophilia."
Now, when one makes a comparison in a range, one usually compares the things at the end of the scale, "from freezing cold and snowing outside" to the things at the other end "to 100 degree weather and sunny."
So are we really saying the Huckabee scale of sexuality goes like this:
(0)Guys who like to do guys.
(1)Adults who lust after children.
(2)People into kinky sex.
(4)Sleeping with corpses.
WTF? Homosexuality and pedophilia as a group is not acceptable EITHER (nor is sadomasochism and necrophilia).
Michael Parrish wrote on December 19, 2007 7:39 PM:This Kevin Spacey look a-like is dangerous! I'll tell you what Jesus would do; hang his head in shame and try to forgive him!
valient wrote on December 19, 2007 8:01 PM:this is why you never mix politics with religion or perference>> it's like your just asking for sh$% *rolls eyes* I pray to whatevers out there, not to let him into the white house.
valient wrote on December 19, 2007 8:08 PM:hey, I gotta joke *snickers* why don't politicians like bookmarks?.....because they like they're pages bent over!XD
Chris wrote on December 19, 2007 8:13 PM:Well, not to change the subject too much, but I think that the conservative Republicans found themselves in desperate need of a boogyman after the advent of the Soviet Dis-union, and so we were elected.
Also, have you noticed that Huckabee always goes around with that hang dog look, and that he ALWAYS needs a shave, he just reminds me more and more of Dirty Dick.
valient wrote on December 19, 2007 8:16 PM:who's dirty dick?
fallen_angel wrote on December 19, 2007 8:21 PM:Oh now this is ridiculous, and I must now rant about it. Religion and politics DO NOT MIX!!! I could care less what 2 or more consenting adults do in private, it is none of my business. I would like it if other's would show me (as well as others) the same courtesy. There is nothing wrong with homosexuality or BDSM (Google, if you have no clue what that means) Now, pedophilia and necrophilia, those are wrong (A child cannot give consent under US law, and a dead body can't even give consent because it's DEAD) And not every religion has an issue with homosexuality, and not everybody is religious. He is entitled to his opinion, but he needs to keep his faith out of politics.
valient wrote on December 19, 2007 8:23 PM:oiy, hey....hey......just chill.ok? there's no need to put your personal feelings completely into this. I did once......I still think that girl was a complete smart ass>>
Teddy wrote on December 19, 2007 8:44 PM:Lets be thankful that Huck's views are the abberant ones. I know we haven't yet achieved equality, but most people in this country are reasonable and don't share his views on homosexuality. He's the outlier.
As to whether homosexual acts are sinful, well I suppose each religion has its right to determine what it considers to be a sin. But I think that organized religion, while it may have had a place in society several millenia ago, has no place now. No old man in a frock and skull cap is going to interpret someone else's interpretations of something somebody allegedly did or said 2000 years ago and tell me how to live my life. And no one in the White House is either. But, to play it safe, after all we always should be safe, let's make sure to vote for the right candidate.
With peace from a former Republican.
Michelle wrote on December 19, 2007 8:48 PM:Hmm... is the evilness and wrongness of the behaviour additive? So if I have sadomasochistic gay sex, does that add up to being as bad as necrophilia?
As for pedophilia... it's amusing how the Right-wing Conservatives can't say "homosexuality" without putting "pedophilia" in the same sentence. They HAVE to equate one with another. My theory... it's because half of them ARE pedophiles, and they can't separate their own evil doings from the people they want to condemn. Most of the gay people I know don't like children at all, much less lust after them.
Personally, I want nothing to do with children. Gee, that makes a gay relationship seem almost logical! Look! No abortions here! No birth control needed! No unwanted pregnancies! The churches should be delighted!
Anyway, back on the topic of pedophilia. In an act of pedophilia, there's an innocent victim. It's a horrible act of injury against am innocent person. In a normal homosexual relationship, there's no victim (unless you're roleplaying one... oooh, kinky!). There are two consenting adults who want to have a relationship, PERIOD. I can't understand why the bedroom activities of two consensual, loving adults are the business of the government, and I can't understand why marriage is only reserved for the couples deemed fit by the majority religion.
My religion allows gay marriage. Why doesn't that count?
Bill wrote on December 19, 2007 8:52 PM:The thought of this man possibly being our next president is scary!
Consider This wrote on December 19, 2007 8:57 PM:Here's an interesting Libertarian take on things:
(First, to dismiss a red herring: The HuckChucks would not, when pressed on the matter, say that "homosexuality" -- i.e., a tendency, or as they would say, a "temptation" to want to have sex with same-gendered persons -- is wrong. They'd say that *giving in* to the "temptation" is wrong; i.e., you can want to have sex with a same gendered person, but you shouldn't do it.
So, I write off their use of the word "homosexuality" as a misnomer, as most people view "homosexual" as an *identity* rather than as an *action*. Anyway....)
HuckChuck puts gay sex, corpse sex, kid sex, and tied-up sex, on the same continuum. Perhaps they've got a point (excepting kid-sex)?
Gay sex, assuming it isn't rape, involves no violation of anyone's rights. (Consensual; e.g. Without Fraud or Threat of Violence = Rights Unviolated.)
Corpse sex obviously doesn't involve violating the rights of the corpse. Perhaps it's a violation of the property rights of the cemetery where you dug up the body? Not sure. But if it's a property-rights violation, that probably puts it in the category of vandalism or something. Yet I suspect the jail term would be rather longer than for, say spray-painting graffiti on someone's house. Hmm. Wonder why that is?
Kid sex can't obviously be consensual *unless* you're talking about older kids; then it gets gray. A four-year old obviously isn't consent-capable. But a fifteen-year old with a seventeen-year old? Or one of these fifteen year old boys getting busy with their school teachers?
And then, with Tied-Up sex; one assumes again that there's no rape. So, consensual; no rights violated.
Now, all of the above give me the creepy crawly heebie jeebies. If it were my kid, murdering the adult involved would not be out of the question. If it were the corpse of a loved one of mine, ditto. And the kinky sex, gay or otherwise, ain't my cup of tea: It fits in that category of activities I'd rather not know about, thanks very much.
But if the duty of the government is to prevent violations of the rights of individuals (and I believe it is) and punish those violations in proportion to their severity (seems reasonable) then, perhaps, these activities aren't so very far apart as far as *government* is concerned? (Again, excepting pedophilia, but THEN excepting the near-in-ages phenomenon, and maybe even the "Hot for Teacher" phenomenon.)
Of course, if you don't like this analysis, then you can take the HuckChuck view: All of the above are aberrant because they're icky; they are on a continuous scale of ickiness...with gay sex less icky than necrophilia, and pedophilia presumably in between (the younger the kid, the closer to necrophilia) and sadomasochism somewhere on the gay end of the range.
Got a problem with the above arguments? Then say so, in detail.
Tyler Schulz wrote on December 19, 2007 8:57 PM:Wow... talka bout grasping for straws. How can the two even be fit on opposite ends of the spectrum? As a homosexual male, I detest being compared to a necrophile. He may say "oh well, I didn't mean that! Blah blah blahhhh..." No. He put them BOTH into the SAME category even if at opposite ends of the spectrum. He messed up big time with that comment...
But just plug your ears, and keep screaming "JESUS, JESUS, JESUS!!!" Until all of the gays, feminists, and liberals go away =D
R.C. wrote on December 19, 2007 8:58 PM:Michelle:
Which religion is that?
Geri wrote on December 19, 2007 9:18 PM:I voted for Clinton so we wouldn't have him as governor here in Arkansas again. Sorry about that, I won't do it again! Did anyone catch what Huck' said to the Iowa caucus awhile back? His remark was” If we're the religious RIGHT, then everyone else must be the religious WRONG". I couldn't believe my own ears when I heard that jackass make such a statement. It didn’t surprise me much though!
jackson wrote on December 19, 2007 9:20 PM:Gina said:
"His personal religious perspective has to do with secular law WHY??"
this is the man that could be the executive head to the legislative body in our nation. his radical religious perspective has a fuck of a lot to do with secular law.
Keith said:
(blah blah, you can go read it.)
i think that the point has been made that we understand he is not equating homosexuality to NECROPHILIA, but he is implicitly stating that it's similar to pedophilia. if he'd said "from homosexuality to pedophilia to s&m to necrophilia" then you'd be right, but he didn't say that.
and while this next bit goes into the territory of my personal opinion, i think he'd still be loosely grouping all of the acts even if he didn't necessarily imply that they equate exactly or are in any sort of smaller groups. that homosexualilty is on the "scale of abberance" is fucking ridiculous. not only is homosexuality not on the same page as pedophilia and necrophilia (also wtf s&m? did you just think the sentance needed to be longer, huckabee? that doesn't make a lick of sense), it's not in the same zip code.
i'm going to canada wrote on December 19, 2007 9:22 PM:Gina said:
"His personal religious perspective has to do with secular law WHY??"
this is the man that could be the executive head to the legislative body in our nation. his radical religious perspective has a fuck of a lot to do with secular law.
Keith said:
(blah blah, you can go read it.)
i think that the point has been made that we understand he is not equating homosexuality to NECROPHILIA, but he is implicitly stating that it's similar to pedophilia. if he'd said "from homosexuality to pedophilia to s&m to necrophilia" then you'd be right, but he didn't say that.
and while this next bit goes into the territory of my personal opinion, i think he'd still be loosely grouping all of the acts even if he didn't necessarily imply that they equate exactly or are in any sort of smaller groups. that homosexualilty is on the "scale of abberance" is fucking ridiculous. not only is homosexuality not on the same page as pedophilia and necrophilia (also wtf s&m? did you just think the sentance needed to be longer, huckabee? that doesn't make a lick of sense), it's not in the same zip code.
tim wilkins wrote on December 19, 2007 9:23 PM:Typical dumbass Southern Baptist knee-jerk reactionary. He shoots off his mouth and has no ability to think. Is this what we want for our leader? Haven't we LEARNED from 8 years of a Fundamentalist in Chief??
Chaz wrote on December 19, 2007 9:29 PM:Bad news! Both political parties could give a crap about the gay and lesbian community and will say anything to get the vote of their electors. Wake up! Dems and Reps are all the same behind closed doors and out of ear shot of microphone!
Matt wrote on December 19, 2007 9:43 PM:"from homosexuality and pedophilia to sadomasochism and necrophilia": yes, he's putting homosexuality and necrophilia on different ends of the spectrum through the use of the preposition "to." However, he's also equating homosexuality with pedophilia through the use of the article "and." Do we want a president who equates two men choosing to have sex with some pervert raping a child?
sadisticon wrote on December 19, 2007 10:05 PM:Hmmm
A world leader with a view of a portion of his law-abiding constituency as being 'aberrant'.
I guess that law-abiding business would be short lived under his reign.
What has he proposed thus far as a solution to this 'aberration', anyway?
Medicine? Imprisonment? Re-education camps?
I understand Iran has a rather exceptional solution to their 'homosexual problem'. Might he be inclined to suggest we follow suit?
Honestly? I don't think this brown shirt has a chance, but I'm sure my 'cousins' in 1930s Germany felt the same way about the National Socialist party leader.
Part of KArl Rove's very successful election strategy was to goad the evangelical vote. they won the Bush/Cheney 2004 campaign with a Gay MArriage ballot initiative that brought out the evangelical vote in Ohio, just enough to win. Now, the GOP has a fire breathing evangelical leading the Iowa
campaign with a month left. the GOP doesn't want the evangelicals to run just to be the captive electorate. Huckabee's attitude towards the environment is almost as scarey as
his attitude towards gays.
oh, another right-wing-fascistic fundamentalist is pretending to be a Doctor of Sexology or what... ha, ha,if it wasn't sad (it's sad that in America of 21 Century actually there are still so ignorant people yet politicians and saddest of all- presidential hopefuls, yuck) it'd be funny.
Just to copy paste excellent Michelle's comment:
"Hmm... is the evilness and wrongness of the behaviour additive? So if I have sadomasochistic gay sex, does that add up to being as bad as necrophilia?
As for pedophilia... it's amusing how the Right-wing Conservatives can't say "homosexuality" without putting "pedophilia" in the same sentence. They HAVE to equate one with another. My theory... it's because half of them ARE pedophiles, and they can't separate their own evil doings from the people they want to condemn. Most of the gay people I know don't like children at all, much less lust after them.
Personally, I want nothing to do with children. Gee, that makes a gay relationship seem almost logical! Look! No abortions here! No birth control needed! No unwanted pregnancies! The churches should be delighted!
Anyway, back on the topic of pedophilia. In an act of pedophilia, there's an innocent victim. It's a horrible act of injury against am innocent person. In a normal homosexual relationship, there's no victim (unless you're roleplaying one... oooh, kinky!). There are two consenting adults who want to have a relationship, PERIOD. I can't understand why the bedroom activities of two consensual, loving adults are the business of the government, and I can't understand why marriage is only reserved for the couples deemed fit by the majority religion.
My religion allows gay marriage. Why doesn't that count?"
- exactly so Michelle!
And, actually, speaking of "aberrations" and real immoralities, they're the most prevalent among homophobic heterosexistic bunch such as H(f)uckabee and his so called "Christian Right" ilk: rapes, incest, pedophilia, necrophilia, prostitutions... - the fact is that all these things are committed mostly by far by heterosexual men (especially, the ones who "prove" their heterosexuality through attacks, verbal and physical, against gay people).
And, to R.C.
fotr example, google for Progressive Christians and you'll find that not all Christians are homophobes and heterosexists.
Evyn Rubin wrote on December 19, 2007 10:45 PM:It is of greater concern to me that Huckabee linked homosexuality and pedophilia. Necrophilia is not an issue in our society today, but pedophilia is a major serious issue, and the rightful concern of parents. It is part of gay oppression today that we are associated with pedophilia by people's selective logic, prejudiced generalizations, and manipulative rhetoric. Homosexuality and pedophilia are two different things....
Anonymous wrote on December 19, 2007 10:59 PM:sure that it's a tool of homophobia and heterosexism to equate homosexuality with pedophilia. that's the evil mind and evil intentions that H(f)uckabee deliberately has as a member of obsessively antigay movement called Republican Party and "Christian Right".their tactic is typical hypocritical one- defaming and slandering gay people so to use gays as a wedge issue.
the only thing that I can't abide is why have so many Americans so ignorantly ever elected such a person to be governor of any state (even if it's Arkansas), let alone to allow such a person be a presidential hopeful
the comment above is mine.
sorry I forgot to type my name
Anonymous wrote on December 20, 2007 12:17 AM:I'm glad to see Huckabee digging his own grave, since he has such a fascination with necrophilia.
Do people even TALK about necrophilia?!
Anonymous wrote on December 20, 2007 1:05 AM:StelleWriter wrote on December 19, 2007 6:06 PM:
So, what difference is there between Huck and his oppinion and that of HRC and Frank Barney? Huck is indicating that he feels homo love is not worthy of protection,..... likewise HRC and Congressman Frank Barney do not feel that Transgender qualifies for consideration and needing protection.
I'm afraid you are mistaken. HRC has been very specific that it belives in and will fight for transgender equality.
Lxts wrote on December 20, 2007 3:38 AM:"Do people even TALK about necrophilia?!"
Nah, it's more of an underground movement.
Dorothy Ellen Whitsell wrote on December 20, 2007 5:47 AM:Many Christian churches since ancient times have been one of the biggest and most relentless purveyors of necrophiliac and sadomasochistic fantasies in the world, slavering adoration of naked crucified Christ statues and paintings, literature of his stripping, beating, torture and death in lip licking detail, similar lurid artwork and stories about martyred saints, obsessions with pieces of dead saint's body parts, and savage cruelties towards children in the form of beatings and threats of going to hell. Adults who corporally punish children are obviously getting thrills out it, some of the lowest scum on this planet and have always been plentiful in Christian churches.
The current situation is truly insane. Two adults in a loving committed relationship should be able to be married. Yet if they are same-gender they can't -- just because some heartless jerk of a bigot objects, while a male and a female who are total strangers can do so on a whim or for a joke can do so for no other reason but their respective sex organs.
Meanwhile a flippant bigot lumps millions of stable loving couples in with people who rape children. In a world that was not utterly insane, Huckabee, who approves of this incredibly unjust lunatic state of affairs, should rightly be regarded as a far worse embarrassment to the Repbblican Party than the similar sort of bigot who was caught in the horrendous crime of tapping his shoe in a public potty.
Geo wrote on December 20, 2007 6:06 AM:Interesting...this is the same man whom while governor accepted 1,400 gifts..maybe that's what the GLBT needs to do - bribe him like the rest of his friends..What is it with these nuts cases from RED states.
I assume he also believes that a woman MUST be barefoot and pregnant. We live in the 21st century and we still are surrounded by politicians who want to regress to the stone ages..
Greg wrote on December 20, 2007 6:47 AM:What he did seem to compare was homosexuality and pedophilia grouping them together at one end. If they are opposite ends of the spectrum which is the good side versus the bad?
Win Scott wrote on December 20, 2007 9:05 AM:Things which are normal, and blessed by Huckabee's righteous God: War, bombs, tanks, guns, bayonettes, indiscriminate killing and torture, decimation of civil liberties, outrageous military spending in a desolate economy, and corporate welfare.(Government By the People, for the People, and of the People.)
Things which are abberant, and condemned by Huckabee's righteous God: two men or two women kissing, two men or two women raising a child together, people loving each other without governmental oversight and restrictions based on race, creed, religion, gender, or nationality.
Dear Mister Huckabee: Just because the education-deprived masses are fools enough to believe in the mythology of a Christian God as though it were established fact (not one shred of evidence so far...), doesn't mean that we should allow a "leader" who suffers from the same delusions. Lies are still lies, even when there's a gold cross printed on the cover.
And if I'm wrong, then may God strike Huckabee dead. Perhaps that alone might restore my faith. ...in God, not in politics.
I feel the need to admit the truth, the reason Huck is so easily misunderstood is because he was trying to make the comments without removing my unit from his mouth. So people, please give him a break ... LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!
torresongs wrote on December 20, 2007 10:25 AM:Let me help Huck and his cronies out here:
Homosexuality = a sexual orientation
SM, pedo, and necro = sex acts
Being gay is not a choice.
Performing a sexual act is something you choose to do or are forced into doing.
Just like Huck was born straight.
But he CHOOSES to be an a**hole.
And I am forcing myself not to puke.
Get it?
As the great John Lennon sang..."IMAGINE NO RELIGION..." Wouldn't it be GREAT!!!
bm wrote on December 20, 2007 11:18 AM:Huckaphilia... now there's an aberrant behavior!
dwilly wrote on December 20, 2007 12:27 PM:i think country & western hip hop crossover and pre-shredded cheese are more aberrant than braunschweiger and brocciflower.
J. K. wrote on December 20, 2007 12:53 PM:Last week on a CNN, Mr.Huckabee, the unenlightened Republican candidate petitioned for pennies to fuel his "Huckabus" caravan...
More important, Huckabee demonstrated a failure to use the English language correctly. When responding to a reporters question Huckabee emphasized that he USES a LOT of METAPHORS". However, when preaching that VOTERS" were like THIRD-GRADERS' he actually used a SIMILE. Big deal? Who cares if the media failed to report this "slip" of the tongue?
Yes, the U.S. Presidency IS a big deal.
We've already "dumbed-down" the society; are we going to bastardize the Presidential bully pulpit too!
Huckabee supported the State paying the college tuition bills of illegal aliens'. Perhaps Huckabee sensed his own educational inadequacies and sought to rectify them by helping out "his neighbors".
In today's job market the educated are often NOT HIRED in favor of those with "direct experience rather than a education". Ironically, Huckabee appears to have NEITHER experience nor a quality education.
For this U.S. citizen the "Huckabus" blew a gasket AND ran out of gas on the 2008 Presidential road trip.
- Concerned Registered Republican in Central NJ -
E.Go Vote wrote on December 20, 2007 1:17 PM:Say, what about turning this anger,rage, and disgust we feel about Huck and the likes and go to the polls next Nov 08 and buck them all off. Okay?
Ragamuffin Jim wrote on December 20, 2007 2:05 PM:Hey Mr. Huckabee:
Christians are told in the Bible not to pass judgment on others or believe that any one "sin" is more aberrant than another. Jesus never belittled anyone for being different. In fact the only time in his life that he reputedly showed anger, was when he confronted money changers in the temple - people using religion to gain personal power and wealth. Presidential candidates who invoke God for votes or feign moral outrage to gain favor with the electorate have crossed that line as well.
Margaret wrote on December 20, 2007 5:25 PM:Hi Margaret:
Read this article and the other ones on
this page. I thought they were interesting.
Hope you had a great day.
Love & miss you,
Mom
Sexual preference is not a lifestyle. For those who oppose homosexuality, answer this please. When did you choose to like the opposite sex?
steve wrote on December 20, 2007 8:34 PM:the christians are the only group I know that practices pedophilia as a group and then proceed to protect each other from criticism and the law.
Shepcat wrote on December 20, 2007 10:50 PM:There have been a lot of really funny and insightful comments here. I really like Dorothy's comment and this one:
"No old man in a frock and skull cap is going to interpret someone else's interpretations of something somebody allegedly did or said 2000 years ago and tell me how to live my life. And no one in the White House is either."
But to all those people who are blaming religion in general and Christianity in specific, you're over-generalizing. Christianity has some churches that accept homosexuality and don't try to change orientation- check out www.radicallyinclusive.com
Just because Mike Huckabee is an idiot who either doesn't know how to think for himself or he is ego-tripping and actually really believes homosexuality is a sin, that shouldn't discredit Christianity or religion as a whole.
But to everyone calling Jesus an imaginary friend and stuff like that, they lack total empathy. Plus, Jesus had nothing to do with Leviticus, and therefore nothing to do with talks on sodomy. Your point is irrelavent to the argument, nobody was saying anything about Jesus.
To everyone who isn't open to the supernatural or the divine: you're just as close-minded as a Creationist because you not only are getting too big for your britches when it comes to knowledge, but you also come off as holier than thou.
In response to the libertarian:
You're saying in a rights-violation point of view, homosexuality doesn't violate anyone's rights so in that it is connected to necrophelia and S&M.
So Ron Paul wouldn't give two shits about trying to stop these actions. That's correct: and Ron Paul is a REAL Republican.
So everyone who says that it's all the Republicans who are bigots are forgot about Ron Paul. " obsessively antigay movement called Republican Party ..." do your research guys!
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Most of you are just as half-assed researchers as Joe Carter and act as "holier than thou" as Mike Huckabee! But you're some funny mother fuckers...and a handful of you did your homework or just intuitively tell it like it is...
What Fuk-a-Bee failed to mention is that the spectrum he was talking about was the spectrum of that week's activities. You know, like hunting, gambling, drinking.
Necrolovers.com wrote on December 21, 2007 3:34 AM:I beg to differ....
Necrophila is becoming an accepted publicly endorsed and institutionally supported aberration. For example, I am sure a lot of you have heard of N LOTUS (Necro Lovers of the United States) An organization committed to the acceptance, promotion, and education of ordinary folk about loving the unliving.
Jeremy wrote on December 21, 2007 2:50 PM:Mike Huckabee is a fascist biblethumper, and DOES NOT NEED to be president
God wrote on December 22, 2007 7:05 PM:Ok, people. God here. How about all of you facsist biblethumpers quit speaking for me? I did create your ingrateful asses. I think I can at least speak for myself. I love the gays! They are so funny!
Sandra Morris wrote on December 23, 2007 12:47 PM:The issues of a person's sexual preferences should in no way be a part of this government or anyother. A person's sexulality is personal. If it is wrong then God will deal with it when the time comes. I don't recall God dying and leaving this issue to the politicians.
Jaywo wrote on December 24, 2007 11:19 AM:Well said Shepcat! I am a homosexual and while I think Huckabee is a total idiot and should not be President, he is entitled to HIS opinion and it is obvious that cooler heads will prevail in this society. Poeple who think like Huckabee are becoming a smaller and smaller group. My opinion is that necrophilia and pedophilia are gross but that is only MY opinion. I say live and let live and let GOD not the GOP decide what is right and wrong.
Michael Tobin wrote on December 28, 2007 10:30 AM:so, is like Homosexual necrophelia a bigger sin than Heterosexual necrophelia on this "spectrum" of his?
Anonymous wrote on January 2, 2008 12:19 PM:Huck is the freaking anti christ in the closet...what a close minded loser...
kreine wrote on January 2, 2008 2:17 PM:wtf?
"Asked how one measured what rated where on this spectrum of aberrant behavior, Carter said: "He was talking about aberrant sexual behavior. Sado masochism and necrophilia are on the further end of the spectrum." [than pedophilia and homosexuality]
if this is an ordering of the spectrum, as desribed by the lackey, then S&M is more extreme/aberrant than pedophilia! Ugh! Anyone else deeply offended by this insinuation? It's also offensive how many people try to insinuate that pedophilia is remotely related to homosexuality, when in truth it is not.
given the info uncovered in a quick Google search pedophilia does seem to be rampant and well-accepted within the GOP :(
starwitness wrote on January 6, 2008 6:44 AM:I ran across this a little late, but still I felt compelled to share something a co-worker found online about Huckleberry F*ckwad. In addition to his opinions on homosexuality, he also believes women should refrain from speaking during church services AND, in accordance with the Bible, are expected to submit to their husbands. So maybe Huckabee would've been an okay leader... of a 17th century Puritan colony. He doesn't have the compassion, the humanity, or common sense to lead a diverse multicultural society. Should he win the presidency... [sigh] I really don't wanna be burned at the stake or be stoned/hanged in public. Any thoughts on a possible running mate? Fred Phelps maybe?
Live and let live, my friends.
Lenunculus wrote on January 15, 2008 1:44 PM:Nambla must be thrilled. According to Huck, they are at least as good as gay people and necros...
Jamesaust wrote on January 15, 2008 2:16 PM:Query to The Huckster:
Are married (heterosexual, of course) couples engaging in sodomy part of "aberrations" like "homosexuality and pedophilia to sadomasochism and necrophilia"? What about the obscenity of engaging in sexual intercourse (fulfilling their God-given role) while practicing birth control (obstructing their God-given role)? Just more examples to the breadth of the spectrum of deviancy?
Is Hucksterbee of that branch of the Baptist church that forbids having sex standing up because it might lead to dancing?I guess one can only hope that should hucksterbee actually get the goper nomination it will come out in the campaign that he's crazier than a shithouse rat.
Nick Adams wrote on January 15, 2008 3:30 PM:You gotta love this guy. Hope he gets the nom.
jeffgee wrote on January 15, 2008 6:23 PM:If Huck is so intent on living Biblically, he should avoid all contact with menstruating women.
Where's Sally? wrote on January 15, 2008 6:27 PM:If you gonna pick and choose from Leviticus you got a whole lot of stuff to weed through.
Azdak wrote on January 15, 2008 6:58 PM:"I am a homosexual necrophiliac", said Tom, in dead Ernest.
Azdak wrote on January 15, 2008 7:00 PM:Question for Huckabee: If having sex with your wife is like having sex with a dead person, is it still "aberrant behavior"?
CJR wrote on January 15, 2008 8:11 PM:This rap on necrophilia is clearly a subtle jab at Fred Dalton Thompson.
Huh? wrote on January 15, 2008 9:39 PM:>
That's gotta be the winner for most hilarious comment. As if Huckabee's phrase was even close to being understandable.
Except for sexual contact, all four really have nothing in common. Pedophilia isn't benign, and necrophilia, despite its obvious horrific nature, hurts noone.
Fred wrote on January 16, 2008 12:37 AM:I hope all of you wierdo's are not really what our nation has come to. This obviously isn't a serious forum. I think aberrant is a very nice way of putting it. If homosexuality was a natural expression of genes, it would burn itself out in a generation or two. There is an interesting book called "coming out straight". The author does a great job showing most homosexuality is caused by some sort of trauma early in life, or some sort of lack of authentic male leadership (for male homosexuality as an example). The problems in our society are largely a result of the degredation of the traditional family.
"Single moms" are heralded as heros fighting their way through a cold world where the odds are stacked against them, and if in the process their kids turned out screwed up, so be it.
How in the world can a sane person argue that a mother and a father in a loving home, bringing up their children with values (not some 'anything goes' sex drug and rock and roll philosophy), teaching their kids -gasp- 10 commandment principles... that there is something wrong with that? I can guarantee you those kids have a better shot at happiness in life. Sometimes single parenthood cannot be avoided, and it is up to the rest of society (friends, family, churches, etc) to jump in and help out. That can't happen now cause traditional families are now in the minority. Question: Of all of the prisoners in our country, what would be a common statement about their upbringing?
All of you who are for this sterilized, secular, 'find your own truth and values', 'if it doesn't hurt anyone it is OK', and all the rest of that BS... Go start your own country, maybe in Antarctica and you can go save the whales or seals or whatever.
My country, the USA, was founded in Christianity. Ever read the Declaration of Independence? Jefferson thought our rights came not from man, the governement, etc, but from a Creator. The only thing wrong with their thinking is that they couldn't possibly foresee the paths that anti-American institutions like the ACLU would take us down. They didn't know that eventually freedom would mean "do whatever with no consequences". Uncle Ben said it best "With great power comes great responsibility."
How many of you have been to help Katrina victims recently? Our chuch is going back--years after you all forgot about them. Ever been to a hospital for something? Did it say 'St' in the front of it? Heard of Harvard? Most universities started as a Christian college. How much have you given to your favorite local charity? Not some animal shelter...Lets actually try and help humans! Where does the standard for morality come from? From you, or you, or you? Without a standard to go by, nothing becomes aberrant. Any reprobate could be logically excused as "finding his own truths". All of you like trashing the Bible because of some OT laws that make no sense to you because you don't take time for proper study, applying hermeneutical principles to see what was being conveyed. If you did, you would see that God warned of keeping stuff that you describe above around because it would crash the society, like it is in the US.
Do me and future generations a favor and stay home in November.
SportinLife wrote on January 17, 2008 1:28 PM:Does the bible actually prohibit necrophilia? I can recall that it was forbidden for the priestly caste to touch a dead body. Beyond that, were there any restrictions?
I don't remember any restriction on cannibalism, either.


