So what time are Obama and Edwards coming to give their concession speeches? Do they go on before or after Clinton?

Sorry that should be "coming ON to give..."

MSNBC is the only cable news channel not posting the Democratic numbers.

I guess they just can't get enough of the misogynist label.

Yes Mary, they're not doing it because they hate women. Right.

The rules only count when it helps me.

--Clinton

She should probably stay in Florida for the next week. She could double her margin of delegates!

For those who mock the "no delegates" scenario and view this as an empty victory for Ms. Clinton, it is not empty for the voters. Everyone's vote matters, even if delegates aren't counted, because the very act of voting is an affirmation of our democratic process.

Hillary will do anyting to win...absolutely anything...You see ;for Hillary becoming president is an end in itself rather than a means to an end..and believe me if she is elected her entire presidency will be about her maintaining power.There is not one principle she wouldnt sacrifice to become president, and not one, she wouldnt sacrifice ,having become president, to maintain her popularity

msnbc is showing the results. Dont believe everything you read here

Every vote counts. It just has no impact on the delegate count. It has zero impact on momentum in the race. The only thing it accomplished is that Clinton is not campaigning in a February 5th state.

Gee, the clintons news network calls it for the clintons. We shall see. I'm so glad that we may have a nominee that you can trust what they say or do. Oh, that's right that's not the clintons who are trying for a third term. They're just like the king, they will lie about anything just to win the nomination. Sorry, it won't work in the general against mccain though.

That is simply terrific!

Hillary Clinton IS the new Katherine Harris.

Someone should have offered them both the sage advice that "cheaters never win."

In the long run, it will always catch up to you.

At least we know Obama has the latino vote locked up:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/te locked up:

Everything's in order. My buttbuddy John McCain is gonna show Hillary who's the real war hawk cum november.

I'm undecided about who & which party I’m voting for, but found this great article called "Black Voters and a Twist of Bias" on the BlogZine SAVAGE POLITICS. It explain what happened in SC and FL.

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=59
WOW- all I have to say!
Here is an excerpt: “Last Saturday’s South Carolina Democratic Primary produced the widely expected result of a Barack Obama victory. From the beginning of the week, it was the ethnic composition of the State in question which was amply discussed by both the Media and it’s multiple pundits. It was here and through other sources that we discovered that 55% percent of Democratic voters in South Carolina were African American. An interesting number when you consider the “coincidence” that Obama actually won the election by exactly the same margin: 55%. Of course, many in Clinton’s campaign have used this demographic reality to spin their defeat, vociferating that they had always expected to loose from the start. It should be noted that it has been this exact attitude which they have ridiculed Obama’s camp for, insinuating that they had proved to be “sore losers” by not admitting their own failures in stating their case to the American People. As we all know, in modern politics, no campaign is free of idiotic childishness, sadly resurfacing the reality that our current political existence is dominated by whining imbeciles of the lowest ilk. Nevertheless, the Clinton Campaign’s affirmation (victory based on a unified ethnic constituency) is valid, especially when we consider the data.
The Primary’s exit polling, presented by all major networks, were utilized by analysts to determine how was Obama’s, Edwards’, and Clinton’s support spread throughout different social markers. Their results indicated that 80% of the Black vote, and only 20% of the White vote, went towards Barack Obama. Regarding most White voters in the State, you could easily identify their split between John Edwards and Hillary Clinton. The significance of this racial division is crucial in understanding the fate of Barack Obama’s campaign, and the Democratic Party, if they chose to face the General Election with him at the helm.…” Find the rest of the article at http://savagepolitics.com/?p=59

Actually it really goes to show us what happens when nobody campaigns in a state, name recognition is all that matters. Obama has caught a lot of headlines so he picks up 30%, Edwards very little so he has a poor showing, Clinton wins because she's the establishment candidate.

All of Obama's victories have come after he has had a focused campaign for votes. There was none in Florida, and unsurprisingly the original front runner won. Seems like a pretty hollow victory, but it certainly doesn't hurt

Mary - the NY State chapter of NOW could sure use someone like you.

I guess those thousands of voters didn't hear the news about the Kennedy endorsements. Barack could have won if he wanted to. He just doesn't want to rub it in.

I'm delighted that Hillary has decided to spend this night in Florida. Think about it. She is facing a surging Obama just 7 days from today in a broad menu of States, and she and her campaign have decided to spend time dancing on the corpse of an uncontested poll result, in Florida? Why isn't Hillary in a Super Tuesday state trying to convert votes to her column? For those of us who are political junkies, the answer is pretty clear.

A STUNNING WIN IN THE MAKING IN FLORIDA FOR CLINTON. OBAMA ROUTED

Obama is being to powder despite 10 days of TV ad buys by his campaign. A state of 18 million people, has given its verdict. Senator Clinton by a landslide.

Funny how the significance of this is played down here. Had this been an Obama win it would be banner headlined. There is no doubt this is a big deal - the delegate issue not withstanding. This does not augur well for senator Obama hope on Feb. 5, it portends a similar fate.

McCain 34%
Romney 32%

so far so good, is there bets when Rudy will drop out? I'm looking forward to his speech.

@Gregor:

Because by being in Florida the national cable networks and then the Wednesday morning shows and evening newscasts will give her lots of free coverage.

Which would you rather have? Local coverage in TN or national coverage for "winning" in Florida?

What's the difference between a national cable ad and an internet ad?

heretic wrote:

"The meme is that as soon as voters get to know Obama, his totals will increase. The question is how many many people can he sway in a major media campaign as opposed to retail politics?"

Well, the more I see of him the less I like him. I'll will admit that his thoroughly obnoxious supporters (a few dear friends of mine and a few people on these pages excepted) have had a big hand in my turn off. People have also gotten really sick of the media worship.

The whole idea of retail politics is overrated anyway. No matter where you live you have plenty of chances to see these candidates on the tube.

jane fallows wrote:
There is no doubt this is a big deal - the delegate issue not withstanding.

wtf? that's like saying that points not withstanding me and my idiot friends could beat the NE Patriots. uhh. that's great, but unfortunately the score matters. just like delegates in a delegate contest.

Thankfully Wolf Blitzer cut off Hillary, blahhh blahhhh, blahhh blahh, the speakers tonight should not drone on and on and on.. because it is election night.. I hate election night speeches that just go on and on and on...

It appears, Anonymous , that Hillary has the Hispanic vote "locked up."

I coulda told ya Andrew Sullivan is full of it.

Teddy Kennedy's endorsement didn't help with Hispanics. All it did was label Obama as a far-left "liberal," with all the baggage Teddy carries with him.

Obama wanted to be Kennedy's protege.

Didn't do any good.

Even 27% of the African American vote voted against him.

Maybe they're "racists." LOL

Wow, this is shaping up to be a rout.. What would happen if Kennedy did not endorse Obama?

Let's call her ploy to change the agreed upon rules and count the Florida delegates exactly what it is:

Hillary Clinton's Florida "signing statement"!

"Of course, the coward didn't bother to reply."

Wow, this is fun...I can't remember, we're all still supporting the same party, right? Our candidates have the same stance on about 75% of the issues, right?

The Clinton campaign will say this is a win because they need an answer to South Carolina where she had a less than favorable outcome.

The Obama campaign will say this is a tie because technically this race is like Michigan's.

All this primary does is to give Clinton the news cycle for at least 24 hours. To be sure, Florida votes count, and they will be courted more than any other state come time for the General Election, but as far as picking a nominee, honestly, it only counts as an endorsement. A big one to be sure, but none-the-less, only an endorsement.

The real question I have is, if this is a measure of how a state will vote without Senator Obama coming to town. How will personal appearances, ads, rally's, etc. affect the race in the days to come.

Anonymous wrote on January 29, 2008 8:53 PM:

"Someone tell her that she didn't win the nomination yet, just the hollow Florida primary, where she was the only one who campigned."

No, she didn't campaign. Voters just are more discriminating than you credit them for being.

All the networks cut off Hillary's speech, kind of deflates the beauty contest that much more.

I WANT MY MOMMY!!! Hillary 08...

Jay wrote on January 29, 2008 8:57 PM:

"Wow, this is fun...I can't remember, we're all still supporting the same party, right? Our candidates have the same stance on about 75% of the issues, right?"

That's right, Jay. So maybe the snotty and arrogant little shits who think you have to be stupid, uninformed, or uneducated to back Hillary Clinton should reassess their attitudes.