Gallup: Hillary's National Lead Down To Three Points
Today's Gallup tracking poll shows that the national race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama is tighter than ever before. Here are the numbers for today, compared to yesterday's:
Clinton 44% (+1)
Obama 41% (+2)
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Out of curiosity- when do you guys call it a statistical dead heat? This is pretty well within the margin of error- how can anyone tell who's ahead?
February 1, 2008 1:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
Sí se puede!
February 1, 2008 1:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
Whatever you thought of last night's debate, Clinton did NOTHING to blunt Obama's momentum over the last few days. She's going to have to do something or else this thing is going to turnout like Iowa.
February 1, 2008 2:00 PM | Reply | Permalink
I don't know that this is germane to this particular thread, but I heard the Politico guy say after the debate that he had asked Edwards if he preferred Clinton or Obama and that while Edwards had declined to mention a name, it had been clear he meant Obama when he said, "One of them believes the system has to change and the other one defends the system."
I wonder 1) if anybody had heard about this interview before and 2) when that interview might have taken place.
February 1, 2008 2:05 PM | Reply | Permalink
As Obama steadily gains, and with McCain way ahead, I'm really surprised no one is talking about the campaign finance implications of an Obama-McCain general. Both have pledged to take public money -- converting what I've seen in some places predicted to be a $1 bil general election into a shoestring $170 million affair. It would also seem to neutralize what appears to be a big advantage for Dems, and increase the importance of 527. On the other hand, it is a bold, principled stand by two men who really seem to care deeply and personally about this issue. Why isn't anybody writing about this?
February 1, 2008 2:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't hold me to this but I believe that comment from Edwards that seems to prefer Obama goes back a few weeks.
Come on John...speak up...now's the time.
February 1, 2008 2:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Don't hold me to this but I believe that comment from Edwards that seems to prefer Obama goes back a few weeks.
Come on John...speak up...now's the time.
February 1, 2008 2:12 PM | Reply | Permalink
hell yeah. go obama! I just read someone comparing Obama to "buttermilk and tobasco" "Smooth and sharp, calming and hot" like that
February 1, 2008 2:17 PM | Reply | Permalink
Anyybody know where to get some gd polls????????? We are 4 days away from super tuesday and there isn't squat out there. This is absurd.
And, this national poll doesn't mean anything one way or the other, other than the trend is good and shows some mo, but it obviously depends on the state polls. How about some state polls??????
February 1, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'll admit that I'm shocked that the national momentum has changed so dramatically. If Edwards endorses Obama this weekend, it might just make the difference. Maybe Clinton really does have a ceiling within the party.
February 1, 2008 2:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
boo-lala
Edwards made that comment, or something very close to it, in the pre-NH debate... that was several political lifetimes ago -- certainly not since he has withdrawn from the race
Certainly if Edwards endorsed Obama between now and Feb 5, it would add to the sense of momentum reflected in the poll above
February 1, 2008 2:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
Here’s the link to a really funny YouTube ad targeted at independent voters in CA (called declined to state voters – DTS) who want to vote in the democratic party’s primary on Tuesday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP9lDAxMZpk
Enjoy. Forward it to your friends.
Sue.
February 1, 2008 2:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
There is a Fox poll showing Clinton ahead by 10 and another poll showing Clinton by 8. When are you going post them? Nah, they do not fit your narrative!!! LOL!
We the people, not you the liberal elitists, decide who become the nominee.
February 1, 2008 2:27 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Fox poll surveyed registered voters, not likely voters like the Gallup and Rasmussen. In other words, the polls that confine themselves to likely voters show the race narrowing, the polls that cast a broader net show it slightly wider. If you wish to take comfort in that, such is your prerogative but I am not much impressed.
February 1, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I would have thought If Edwards wanted Obama he would have done it by now....I'm still saying it's
Clinton/Obama with a side order of Edwards/AG
February 1, 2008 2:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Posted by FlyOnTheWall (still can't sign in. arg.):
Actually, the big news in this poll is that Gallup has made a call. Yesterday, it was on the fence, unable to say where Edwards voters were going. This afternoon, they've spotted a clear trend - they're breaking for Obama.
That ratifies what we've seen in Rasmussen, where Hillary's lead had shrunk again this morning. Rasmussen has a four day sample, but extrapolate it out, and we're now within the margin of error on both polls. And unless there's been a major Hillary surge this morning, Obama's climb willcontinue for at least the next couple of days, as the polls replace older data with newer samples.
Andrew Sullivan just posted links to polls in NJ and TN that reflect the Obama surge. We're seeing it in the national tracking. And from reports on the West Coast, it appears likely that Obama has just lapped Hillary in the biggest state of them all. He's scored SEIU's endorsement, is poised to pick up the largest Spanish-language paper in California, and has been touted in the past 24-hours on the two most popular Spanish-language radio shows in America. His rally in East LA this morning was much, much better attended than yesterday's.
There's a major shift going on here, and last night's debate did nothing to reverse it. Obama and Hillary both gambled that current trends would guarantee a win. Looks like Obama's winning that bet.
February 1, 2008 2:30 PM | Reply | Permalink
There are other polls that do give Clinton a wider margin, I would like to see them all to get a better view of the polling, not just the closer ones but who am I to say.
February 1, 2008 2:34 PM | Reply | Permalink
Although I haven't been polled by anyone, I suspect my own experience may reflect that of many late undecideds. Torn between Hillary and Barack -- and facing the need to caucus within the next 10 days -- I broke last week for Obama. I think they'd both make great candidates, but electability finally swung me around. I want to vote for the candidate who I feel has the best chance of beating John McCain.
February 1, 2008 2:37 PM | Reply | Permalink
JPWolf,
Don't be confused by this perceived Obama electability. He right now has the benefit of extremely favorable media coverage while in the midst of Democratic primaries. If Obama were to get the nomination, the nation will take a closer look. The reality is Obama has an extremely liberal voting record, and he's recently gone even farther to the left. He's now been endorsed by moveon, and his support of driver's licenses for illegals is now in the forefront, since Obama is trying to pander to the Latino vote in places like California. I don't see any way that Obama could move back toward the center for the general election. Any independents and Republicans - who are attracted by Obamamania coverage and a chance to dethrone the Clintons - will drift away to McCain in the general. The driver's license issue, opposed by about 70% nationwide, is a huge loser for the general.
Hillary right now is the stronger general election candidate. Don't forget that she represents the moderate, pragmatic wing of the Democratic Party . . . the one that wins elections.
February 2, 2008 10:38 AM | Reply | Permalink
Do you have any other pools to show besides the Gallup one.
February 1, 2008 2:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
The Fox Poll has HRC up by 10!!!!!!!!!!
47HRC
37BO
So, whatta ya thinka of that!?!
Also AL is now tied after BO was up on HRC
TRISTATE and New England -- HRC UP UP UP! Conn is the exception but we'll see...
Texas HRC up big!
Tenn/Arkansas HRC up?
What Obama MO?! Hillary has the MO!
February 1, 2008 2:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Any other polls flyonthewall? This is driving me nuts. 4 days til super tuesday and there are barely any polls. I like the trend on the national poll, but in reality it has little meaning. It's the states that are important and there is barely anything from the states with credibility. Thanks.
Michael A.
February 1, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
DO you have other polls to show besides Gallup today.
February 1, 2008 2:49 PM | Reply | Permalink
A bunch of new polls just out on RCP, including a new Mass Dem poll with Hillary up by 24, done by the same pollster that had her lead down to 6 a few days ago.
Also, ARG has a poll showing Clinton slashing Obama's lead in IL.
February 1, 2008 2:50 PM | Reply | Permalink
Is there something wrong with the comment system....I am not being seen
February 1, 2008 2:58 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, Fox has Clinton up by 10. http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/020108_election_release_web.pdf Yeah, it's Fox, but guess what. If you go to Survey USA and scroll down they rate the pollsters for accuracy and Fox is 5th out of 25, Gallup is near the bottom.
Survey USA also has a new Massachusetts poll out, showing Clinton back up by 24 (her lead was down to 6).
And I'd love to sign up for an account but I can't see anything on the upper right. Maybe you guys should outsource your computer stuff to India. :)
February 1, 2008 3:02 PM | Reply | Permalink
Of course Obama supporters are "liberal elitists", lol, sounds familiar. I'm pretty sure calling Democrats elitists is one of the GOP's favorite attacks, I'm glad some of our fellow Democratic Hillary supporters are picking up on yet another GOP talking point. This ranks right up there with "vote for me or we may be attacked by terrorists, on day one". Congrats.
And I doubt this will even post, because none of the last 5 posts I've tried have actually gotten posted. Thanks TPM!
February 1, 2008 3:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yesterday a poll was released showing Clinton way ahead in TN. Today another poll was released showing Clinton's lead in that state to be very narrow. It is looking less and less likely that this race will be decided by Feb 6.
February 1, 2008 3:16 PM | Reply | Permalink
Does anybody know exactly what population is meant by "national" poll? Does the poll reflect all people in the country, including those in states that have already voted, i.e. Iowa, NH, etc. Or are these "national" polls only polling people in states that have primaries Feb 5 and beyond? Obviously, the latter would provide a more meaningful result, but I can't find any source confirming this to be the case.
February 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
The national shift has been trending for months. The NE states and NY/NJ have started moving very quickly since the SC win and the Ted and Caroline Kennedy endorsements. MoveOn will be a nice boost too.
Three words to the Obama camp and volunteers: Remember New Hampshire. As Charles Franklin brilliantly shows, polls are not reliable. The fact that Hillary (playing the incumbent roll in most polls bc of name recognition/"experience") has rarely been over 50% in statewide polls is bad news for her camp.
I was an Edwards supporter from '00 until about a week ago. And, like most of his supporters, have joined Obama's quest. I think Edwards will make a great VP, Attn. Gen, or Secretary of Labor.
February 1, 2008 3:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
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February 1, 2008 3:33 PM | Reply | Permalink
JP - I was in the same boat after Edwards dropped out. I'm with Obama now. I can't imagine 24 years of executive rule by two "royal" families. We don't live in Argentina or Pakistan or India.
February 1, 2008 3:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hooray, Obama has narrowed the gap in MO to within the margin of error. Or, perhaps I should say that Obama volunteers like myself have narrowed the gap (after going door to door in single digit weather, I am not feeling gracious enough to give all the credit to the candidate). In any event, that is exactly the sort of encouraging news I needed to see in order to get excited about all of the work that needs to get done over this coming weekend. Fired up and ready to go...
February 1, 2008 3:53 PM | Reply | Permalink
well, the system is still troubled, tried to get new password, but got an error message.....good luck, techies.......I'm thinking my IT son should be hired, Hah!
Great news for Obama in this tracking poll.
February 1, 2008 4:08 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'm hearing the news about the Spanish language media support (huge), and I'm making the logical assumption that Edwards supporters will go to Obama (thanks for letting us loose, John) and I'm anxiously awaiting the stunning one two Edwards/Richardson endorsements. Anyone with me on this? Tuesday is going to be one heck of a day!
February 1, 2008 4:11 PM | Reply | Permalink
it's more than just electability that speaks for obama; it's effectiveness.
even if clinton were elected president, every republican in congress would defiantly oppose her every initiative. doing so would win them votes at home. anti-hillary sentiment would make a clinton presidency completely ineffective and, in the long run, would thereby undermine democratic goals. it makes no sense to nominate a candidate so hated that republicans would campaign on their opposition to her. obama has the capacity, not only to lead america, but to heal some of the bad blood in congress. and that doesn't just benefit us through the implementation of good policies; it also helps to invalidate the frequent republican talking point about government's inefficacy and inability to accomplish goals.
February 1, 2008 4:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think these poll numbers are very soft, at best, and misleading at worst. They are likely correct that the spread is narrowing but Clinton basically retains the lead in all Feb. 5 states. I'm sure we'll see a lot of volatile polls in the next couple of days but beyond being good conversation topics, they won't mean much. Once Tuesday's votes occur, any gains Obama makes now will evaporate just as quickly.
One of the reasons I think they are soft is that while Obama did good in the well-watched debate last night, his best performance so far, he was still clearly bested by Clinton. Even if you don't agree with this, I'm sure an easier consensus is that Clinton won simply by not making a serious error and losing. The results give Obama some good press but I don't think he changed anyone's mind last night--except for the question of driver's licenses for illegal aliens. Even if this doesn't hurt him now, if he were to win the nomination, it'll kill him later on many fronts--immigration, national security, and so forth.
Anyway, these polls, the viewing audience last night, and the historic participation in the primaries and caucuses is clearly writing on the wall that this is the Democrats year. Stronger still with Clinton to shove the failures of the Republicans and their Clinton-hating propaganda down their throat in the upcoming general election.
February 1, 2008 4:24 PM | Reply | Permalink
I can't imagine 24 years of executive rule by two "royal" families.
Support Obama, or McCain or Romney (forgive my blasphemy for the last two) for that matter, but don't throw out that 'royal' family stuff as a reason. Your choice of language only shows the extent you've been affected by the campaign. Where was this talk when Bush Jr was running, especially after his first term and people saw how he performed? Choose Obama because he thinks illegals should be allowed to get drivers licenses (at least you will know who they are), while Clinton does not. Choose Obama because he doesn't think there should be a mandate that people buy health insurance, like Clinton apparently does. Choose Obama if his "I was always against the Iraq invasion" stands up to analysis, unlike Clinton who 'voted for it before I was against it'. I know, I know Kerry said that, but you get the idea. Chose one over the other because you want them to be your leader, not just because you think they can win.
February 1, 2008 4:32 PM | Reply | Permalink
I think that you are phrasing this poorly. Survey USA never showed Clinton's lead down to six. Last week Survey USA showed her lead in MA at 37, this week Survey USA has her lead down to 24. It was Rasmussen which showed her lead in MA down to 6, and Rasmussen has not released any new data to change that. Meanwhile, I would note that Rasmussen's sample size was twice that of the Survey USA poll you are citing, so it is hard to know whether that Survey USA suggests that the Rasmussen number is unreliable, or whether the discrepancy simply suggests that Survey USA has a less representative sample.
February 1, 2008 4:36 PM | Reply | Permalink
Obama has been on an upward trajectory but Clinton was started to move upward, too (although at a lower tilted trajectory).
None of these polls reflect last night's debate where both candidate's had very good nights. Heading into next Tuesday, I think the great performances by both give Clinton a slight edge.
Why? Because she is the front runner and the truth is, there are really VERY FEW true undecideds in this race. Most people listing themselves as undecided have already been leaning one way or another for quite some time. Some who are on the undecided list are former Hillary leaners (probably predominately women) who were put off by the harsh tone of the campaign (which, unfairly, has been far too one-sidedly blamed on the Clinton campaign). Her performance last night reassured them enough to return to her camp.
The "undecided" focus group of CNN last night started the night about 50%/50% and claimed they exited 60%/40% Clinton. That may be evidence of my point above. Undecideds included former Clinton leaners coming back to Hillary.
There was also a Lutz focus group on Fox News that split heavily for Obama but that group was a joke and "undecided" in name only. You only had to listen to them to realize that they were predominately Obama leaners (at the very least!) going into the debate. A true "undecided" would have come out of last night's debate feeling that both candidates did really well where this focus group was very one-sided in their appraisals.
The Luntz group also included a young, bimbo Paris Hilton type who just said Hillary was boring and people her age wouldn't be able to relate to her. She didn't give a very attractive picture of an "undecided" and her comments were insulting to young people. Oh well, I guess Hillary gets the benefits of "Obama is a muslim" types so Obama is entitled to vacuous valley girls.
February 1, 2008 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink
Matthew Weaver wrote:
"One of the reasons I think they are soft is that while Obama did good in the well-watched debate last night, his best performance so far, he was still clearly bested by Clinton. Even if you don't agree with this, I'm sure an easier consensus is that Clinton won simply by not making a serious error and losing."
I agree with everything you say except the "clearly bested" part. I think they both had outstanding performances but I agree with your latter assessment that a very good tie may slightly favor Clinton. Of course, a big accomplishment for Clinton last night was that she reminded many Democrats why they like her - something all too easily forgotten during the last couple of weeks.
February 1, 2008 4:52 PM | Reply | Permalink
I'd just like to say I am not surprised if Hillary slips in the polls. MSNBC has been pushing Obama shamelessly. Their coverage favoring Obama has been shameless.
They won't let guests talk, they put words in the guests mouths when they don't like the answers, and for every minute of free air time they give Obama ads, Hillary's lucky to get a few seconds.
Even FOX has more balanced coverage. And they are clearly not pushing one over the other. Shuster and Mathews are really disgusting. I tune into CNN now. I just can't stomach MSNBC any longer.
February 1, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply | Permalink
You may be interested in taking a look at the ongoing AOL polls. They are surprisingly close to many (but not all) of the standard polls. When you log onto AOL, pan down to find the link for voting for your favorite candidate. Then vote by choosing your state.
February 1, 2008 4:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
"I'd just like to say I am not surprised if Hillary slips in the polls. MSNBC has been pushing Obama shamelessly. Their coverage favoring Obama has been shameless."
Yes, I really don't know what their motivations are. They'll have an entire panel of Clinton bashers with the exception of Pat Buchanan who is at least skeptical of both of them. However, Pat keeps pushing the Dick Morris race card theory which is really unfair to the Clintons. The Clintons did not start this race issue.
I think MSNBC's coverage has been so incredibly one-sided, though, that it may actually backfire.
February 1, 2008 5:03 PM | Reply | Permalink
bravo06 wrote:
"MoveOn will be a nice boost too."
Is there anyone who is not already an Obama supporter (or intending to go to Obama after an Edwards exit) who would be pushed over the fence between Hillary and Obama to the Obama camp by a MoveOne.Org endorsement?
I seriously doubt it. A MoveOn endorsement would just be singing to the choir.
February 1, 2008 5:07 PM | Reply | Permalink
Maybe. Hard to say. One could just as accurately spin this the other way and say that much of Clinton's case has been staked on her superior qualifications. If it comes across as a tie, it means that Obama does not appear too young or inexperienced, which could serve to nudge those who like him but were wary of his youth over the edge into supporting him.
February 1, 2008 5:18 PM | Reply | Permalink
Actually, imo, the Kennedy endorsement, Kerry and now moveon endorsements, all point in capital letters that Obama is the more LIBERAL of the two. That can't help Obama in long run. I think Hillary is better off NOT getting those endorsements.
February 1, 2008 5:28 PM | Reply | Permalink
"Yes, I really don't know what their motivations are. They'll have an entire panel of Clinton bashers with the exception of Pat Buchanan who is at least skeptical of both of them."
I'm glad someone else has noticed this. Of course it's kinda hard NOT to! :) Their bias treatment is so blatant!
It finally got me tuning out. I just don't watch them anymore. I switch between CNN, HeadlineNews and Fox. (Egads! I never thought I'd be watching Faux news! :) LOL
February 1, 2008 5:31 PM | Reply | Permalink
David Shuster and Chris Mathews and now, since last night, you can ad Keith Oberman to the list are all pushing Obama down our throats. MSNBC is obviously pushing him.
They give him more coverage, more flattering comments, less criticism and don't even repeat the negative stories that have come out on him. Yet Hillary is a target every day.
February 1, 2008 5:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well its not new that Mathews is a misogynist! Maybe this attitude against women comes from the network! He shouted at Dee Dee Meyers (is that her name?) one night because she disagreed with his opinion. Wow, the nerve of her to disagree with him. It was an argument about when Hillary became the front runner.
February 1, 2008 5:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
Fox News new poll:
Clinton 47%
Obama 37%
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/020108_election_release_web.pdf
February 1, 2008 5:57 PM | Reply | Permalink
a guest wrote "I'd just like to say I am not surprised if Hillary slips in the polls. MSNBC has been pushing Obama shamelessly. Their coverage favoring Obama has been shameless.
Even FOX has more balanced coverage. And they are clearly not pushing one over the other. Shuster and Mathews are really disgusting. I tune into CNN now. I just can't stomach MSNBC any longer."
I don't think CNN is much better. Just listen to John King--he is not good at hiding his disdain
for Hillary Clinton.
February 1, 2008 6:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Haha, where did all the Obamabots go? Talking about media, I have not checked Fox but CNN is equally disgusting. There is no balance there as well. do you see anybody remotely sympathetic to Hillary? How dare CNN ban Carville/Paugala but not Rolland Martin. This AA is clearly in the pocket of Obama. Donna Brazile is a little bit less obvious than Rolland but does anyone doubt where her allegiance lie? You can detect how gleeful Gloria Bolger when she bashes Clinton. How don't understand what is her grevience against Hillary! last night, the only one who said anything positve? Bill Bennette!
February 1, 2008 6:44 PM | Reply | Permalink
Well, good for her. On the other hand, Texas votes a month after Super Tues, so goodness only knows what present poll numbers there can be taken to indicate.
February 1, 2008 7:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
blame the media
February 1, 2008 7:25 PM | Reply | Permalink
all point in capital letters that Obama is the more LIBERAL of the two.
wait, i thought he was a reaganite. well, whatever sticks to the wall.
February 1, 2008 7:29 PM | Reply | Permalink
Am I not good enough any longer for my posts to work?
February 1, 2008 8:47 PM | Reply | Permalink
Miracle! I'm in!
Looking at the trends in the Gallop poll, it is astonishing to see the way that Obama continue to gain on hillary. From about 16 points behind her on the 25th of the month to just 3 points today. With gains each time they've polled. Given that trend, he may overtake hill by Super Tuesday.
February 1, 2008 8:54 PM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, MSNBC has lost me, too. A real pity. Not too long ago it seemed to be the great corrective to FOX. Now it seems just as biased as everything it initially sought to offset.
February 1, 2008 9:51 PM | Reply | Permalink
i'm a obama supporter, but i listen and read about all the canidates. i am taking this election very seriously. i wish everyone would do the same. this election is too important.
February 2, 2008 1:28 AM | Reply | Permalink
Yes, thanks to Bill Bennette for keeping it real. He practically told Gloria to just stop with the spinning. Anyone looking at the debate, without a preference with no incentive to spin, would have to admit that Hillary won the debate hands down. She's the better debater, regardless of who's side you're on. That is just the facts.
February 1, 2008 11:10 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hard to believe ol' snake eyes Bill Bennett still can get his ugly mug on TV.
February 1, 2008 11:19 PM | Reply | Permalink
just looking at some polling break downs. several have M/F ratio of 45/55 to 35/65.
is this really representative of likely voters?
February 1, 2008 11:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
Hillary voted for the war; that alone will sink Billary--she is finished.
February 2, 2008 12:23 AM | Reply | Permalink
The media bias argument is so tired. People see the bias they want to see. Yesterday, MSNBC showed a bunch of feel good Hillary ads from beginning to end with almost no critical comment or fact checking. It was a fab