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Source: Gore Won't Endorse Before Feb. 5th

Josh Green of The Atlantic has gotten folks in political circles talking with this fun piece suggesting that if Al Gore wants any presidential endorsement to have maximum impact, he'll have to do it before Feb. 5th:

Ted Kennedy’s endorsement Monday had the feel of history about it. Even conservatives swooned. Only one endorsement could be bigger -- and if Al Gore is going to pull the trigger, you have to think he’ll do so in the next 72 hours...an announcement would be earthshaking and guaranteed to dominate the airwaves until the February 5 primaries.

I checked in with a source close to Gore for a response to the piece. Asked if there was any shot at a pre-Feb. 5th endorsement, the source said: "He has no plans to endorse in the near term."

Not a flat-out denial, but it's probably not going to happen.



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I do not see it happening. First, Gore won't make such a quick decision. He's almost like Cuomo in that regard. Second, he'll play cautious and wait until it is clear who the winner is. Finally, I think he'd rather stay out of the day-to-day politics of the primaries.

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Matthew, you didn't have any trouble signing up to comment, did you? (and I agree with you)

I signed up last night. Experienced problems then, but today logging in, even adding picture works fine. I have found, though, that logging in on TPMElectionCentral is required to successfully post on this domain, as when I logged into TPM, even though it showed I was logged in once I accessed TMPElectionCentral, I got errors posting. Earlier today I lost some posts and even got errors when making posts, but at this point, I am finding things are working fine.

Suggestion: Log out (if you are logged in), clear your browser cache (through tools and options in Firefox and IE), then sign-up or log in. This might clear up some problems you might be encountering.

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Matthew, G.S. here -- did you have any trouble signing on? )And I agree with you)

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"A source close to gore"? Is there some reason they should remain nameless? The NYT requires authors explain why a source should be anonymous, and sources say TPM should do the same.

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Alma Rangel just endorsed Obama.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/its-official-alma-rangel-backs-obama/

That's some serious bet-hedging.

This is slcathena...

Honestly Greg, I've been trying to use my old account for the last 24 hours. It won't let me register that handle again, which I'd like to use, and TPMEC won't let me log in with that username...every other site will though. So I realize you're going to keep pushing us to register, but realize some of us can't. :(

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Looks like he's not going to endorse. But why endorse at all if you are waiting for a clear cut winner. What's the point in that? It's obvious he is going to campaign for the democratic nominee.

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Arguably, a bigger endorsement is waiting in the wings: I'm on pins and needles to see who Bill Clinton endorses in this election.

But seriously, for a moment. It seems amazing to me that Al Gore--who has never been President--has, arguably, more influence among the Democratic electorate now than Bill Clinton does. At least, Gore appears to have that kind of credibility among the more liberal and active Democrats.

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Looks like he's not going to endorse. But why endorse at all if you are waiting for a clear cut winner. What's the point in that? It's obvious he is going to campaign for the democratic nominee.

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I wouldnt expect anything at all.

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I wonder who this helps, if anyone?

It seems to be conventional wisdom that Gore would endorse Obama. I think that's right for a number of reasons, from bad blood with the Clintons to the kind of politics that Obama represents.

By not endorsing, does this conventional wisdom stand? Does it make any difference at all?


Other log in problem: I have twice entered my email adress for my TPM cafe password and a screen pops up saying message sent. But, I never receive the email.

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I posted to the health care flyer post more than an hour ago and it's not there. Am I being censored by the moderators on your new site or is the site broken?

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These endorsements are over-rated. Who cares who these guys like better?

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Gore made a decision four years ago to endorse Howard Dean, and he saw what a mistake that was. Now that he is a Nobel winner, I doubt he'd want to sully his reputation with an endorsement that might not pan out in the end. He wants to have the maximum clout possible to whatever Democrat wins the Presidency (big assumption, but let's go with it for now). If he supports Obama, whom I have no doubt he supports in private, and Clinton wins, how much of a voice would he have in a Clinton administration?

I just want to say thanks for doing a great job on this site.P.S. Josh did a fine job on Kieth Olberman's show the other night.

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Sigh...

I'm seeing the same story since the start of this election cycle: It's as if the scales of history *want* to tip, and Gore simply won't put his thumb on them.

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Does anyone actually believe Al Gore would ever endorse Hillary Clinton - I mean EVER?! As such, Al's options would seem to be 1)endorse Obama now or 2) endorse Obama later. The only rationale I can formulate for the Obama campaign holding Gore (+Edwards?) in reserve is that they're confident he'll hold his own on Tuesday. And after it's clear the primary season is going to be a long haul, they'll roll out the big endorsements one by one. Richardson, on the other hand, is the one I'm watching for today (ahead of Tuesday's hispanic-heavy contests). If he goes into Hillary's column this weekend, expect to see a Gore and/or Edwards counterpunch.

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I agree with 14oct's analysis. Gore's impact will be greater if he endorses after Feb 5th. Even if Obama outperforms the polls where they stand today and wins 100 more delagates on super tuesday, we'd still be in a dead heat with super delegates included. on to dc, va, md, ohio, texas, etc. I do hope though that it is over on Weds. My checking account can't take 3 more months of this :)

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I registered last night, and I now have no problems logging in and posting.

I can't even get guest comments to stick now and I can't log in. I don't know if this will work or not, but here goes.

Gore would never, ever, not in a million years endorse the clintons. No freaking way. The funny thing is that he is basically endorsing obama by not endorsing the clintons. I bet he doesn't say or do anything except congratulate obama and then he gives a speech at the convention, if obama wins. If its the clintons again, he goes to iceland on a fact finding trip at the time of the dem convention and doesn't say a word.

Think about it -- if Gore wants maximum impact re climate issues the best move is to not endorse in the primary. If he picks the loser it creates a potential obstacle to good relations with the next president. If he picks the winner relations will be good, but relations will be good with the eventual nominee regardless whether he endorses or not. The only way this logic doesnt hold true is if he things one candidate will be markedly less agressive on climate issues as President, but given what we know today it's impossible to tell. So the smart move is to stay out until the nominee is decided, then help the winner beat the Republican nominee.

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I think if Gore wants maximum impact, and the primary goes all the way to the convention, a floor speech with his endorsement in Denver will be the defining moment of this campaign.

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That's too bad. I was looking forward to a check-mate endorsement from Gore.

By the way, Obama has some major mo in MO. (sorry...).

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Gore is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. He has a cause, and he is not going to sully his mission by getting in the trenches. He will want to work with whoever the next President is, GOP or Democrat, and wont endorse.

For more than a year now he has been in the political headlines: Will he run? Will he endorse? etc., etc. Plain and simple - the guy doesn't want back into a game that stung him but good. He is a superstar now, and if he becomes a politician again, then that is what he turns back into. He probably wouldn't endorse Hillary, but to suggest that he is somehow in league with the Obama campaign is, I think, naive.

As for Edwards, I think it can go wither way. He hit Obama hard at the last debate about not taking responsiblity, voting present and sitting on the fence. That and the fact that his healthcare plan is much closer to Hillary's than Obama's. He also knows the people he resonated with are by and large Hillary's base. I would not be surprised if he goes to the Clinton camp with Richardson and maybe even Biden.

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Just testing my login.

Also, if Al Gore endorses after the 5th, it'll mean that Obama is in great shape, and almost definitely in a position to wrest the nomination from Clinton. I can't see Gore wasting his political capitol on someone who's still a long-shot at this point, and I also could never see him endorsing a Clinton at this point either. If Gore does come out, it'll be to put Obama over the top to win the nomination.

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For cripes sake, TPM, just go back to the old software until you have worked the kinks out on this new stuff. It is absurd to keep on disrupting the actual working purpose of your site, at this crucial pre super tuesday period.

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I think the Obama camp is pretty pysched right now with the way things are moving and holding off Gore until they really need it. I'll bet Edwards endorses first and then Gore right when teal Hillary claims some more momentum (are there any other meaningless, no delegate primaries left?).

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Actually, judging from Howard Dean's luck last time, I'm crossing my fingers hoping that Gore will, as reported, abstain from jinxing, I mean endorsing, my candidate of choice. Although, as mentioned by a poster at Kos, my support has probably already jinxed my candidate as it jinxed Dean.

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I see that the Huffington Post is also reporting that Dodd and Richardson have announced that they will not endorse anyone before Tues. Unless Edwards speaks up, it appears that none of the really coveted endorsements will be given until such time as it really makes no difference.

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Gore will endorse Obama in CA at the Michele Obama, Caroline Kennedy, Oprah rally. You heard it hear first.

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And one day I might learn to spell: the word is here, as in-you heard it here first.

Gore won't endorse anyone until a victor is predetermined (which probably won't happen for weeks).

He's above politics now, or at least he believes he is. He has NOTHING TO GAIN personally, and much to lose, if he endorses the loser.

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